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Genetically modified foods, safe or not?

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by sombunya, Oct 22, 2012.

  1. sombunya

    sombunya Use it up, throw it away

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    I haven't been able to really pin down whether or not it is safe. My gut feeling says it is but I'd like some NO B.S. facts.

    Here in the P.R.C. there is a ballot initiative concerning the labeling of such foods and I'm not sure how to vote. Hoping some folks here can offer insight.
     
  2. HollowHead

    HollowHead Firm member

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    I'm no biologist, but I'd imagine a steer that's bred to withstand extreme cold and long periods of drought from one parent whose breed can withstand extreme cold and another parent whose breed can withstand long periods of drought wouldn't be bad for you. And if they throw in a little fish or lizzard DNA to help that along, what's the danger? HH
     

  3. inthefrey

    inthefrey Moved on...

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    Good question. All the evidence is not in yet.

    However, as far as vegies are concerned, the plant is the base protein for life. Without a plant, life could not exist on this planet. Screwing around with billions of years of adaptation to produce an "enhanced" vegetable scares me a little. As far as micro-biology and genetic alterations to produce "enhanced" or modified complex proteins (meats, etc), worries me a whole lot more. Any change to the DNA of a complex life form to produce an "enhanced" version, could make it vunerable and also be the host, for any number of natural bad guys that could also use that modified DNA to produce a deadly bacteria or virus. Yes, this scares me. Eating it is a completely differenty issue.

    But this is all just ME being too careful I guess.
     
  4. .264 magnum

    .264 magnum CLM

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    I draw the line at lizard in my beef as well!
     
  5. HollowHead

    HollowHead Firm member

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    The fact that we have corn and soy that can't reproduce without paid permission from Monsanto and ADM is more of a concern. HH
     
  6. TK-421

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    It's been going on for years, it hasn't killed us yet. I'm sure it's perfectly safe. Look at what Monsanto has been doing, they've been modifying plants since the 80's, it's not like it's anything new.
     
  7. WayaX

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    This is what bothers me, big time.

    The methods used to create GMO foods are safe. Occasionally there is an odd quirk, like an over-expressed disease resistance protein causes an allergic reaction in a very, very small portion of the population.

    The Monsanto thing, however, bugs the crap out of me. Farmers have had to destroy whole crops that have accidentally mingled with Monsanto's product. It's the same way with companies trying to patent human genes. I cannot stand Monsanto, but it seems whatever you do, you cannot get away from their products. I try to support local growers whenever I can, even at a higher cost.
     
  8. *ASH*

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    organic or genetically enhanced food is not better for you period.in some cases not as good .

    The Monsanto crap gets tiring . not at all what people think
     
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    Not as good as what? HH
     
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    not as good as good ole old school dirt grown veggies or meat
     
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    Organic? It doesn't get more "...good ole old school dirt grown" than that... HH
     
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    *ASH* FURBANITE

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    what im saying is organic , no pesticides no nothing is not any better then fertilized , sprayed , pest control food

    http://articles.latimes.com/2012/sep/03/news/la-heb-is-organic-food-better-20120831

    one of thousands of studies that refute organic is better for you

    i farm for a living i have grown both ways . YMMV
     
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  13. jame

    jame I don't even know....what I'm doing here....

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    Here we go again….

    I'll keep it simple this time.

    Prove it. Give me a case number. Give me an honest to God, legitimate example of when and where this has happened.

    No "he said/she said" crap. Real true, factual stuff.

    Begin.
     
  14. WayaX

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    Actually, pesticides can indeed be harmful. Many pesticides and herbicides are approved without a full study of impact on people and environment.
     
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    Here you go: Monsanto Canada Inc. v. Schmeiser
     
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    that is true statement , just as the statement " alot of pesticides and fertilizer and herbicides are not .
     
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    It isn't any better. You said it wasn't as good...that's all. HH
     
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    This is a good start, but I'm guessing that your location of Iowa indicates you already knew this. HH

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/28/AR2009112802471.html
     
  19. jame

    jame I don't even know....what I'm doing here....

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    Read it:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto_Canada_Inc._v._Schmeiser

    He was growing seed for commercial resale as seed for replant. Not as grain or oil seed. He was in direct competition with Monsanto, and he was trying to take advantage of Monsanto's efforts. This is no "farmer". He's in the seed business.

    I'll give you a B for effort, but I was really hoping for something from USA case law.
     
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    its like during strawberry season every thursday we drive to small town near here to sell at local farm market . everything sold there has to be organic or non sprayed . im talking big hippie town , we get asked all the time ? do you use pesticides or fertilizer ??" atleast 20 times that day .

    then we explain nothing touches the berries but water and sun SO we technically cant say organic . but we do underground fertilizers . and god forbid you break out a plastic bag