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Just surfin around the net looking at gun accessories.. and I ran across this... *DISCLAIMER* This post is not intended to be another rag on Gen4's or criticize their owners...

I saw that and if its a repost, I appologize, but you guys need to see this!! wow!:wow: Your gear's malfunctions can get you KILLED!! :shocked:

http://youtu.be/LYqOc_Fld5Q

Stay Safe Out there fellow Glockers!!
 

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Bad spring. See the comments section.
No, it's not.
[URL]http://www.streamlight.com/faq/[/URL] said:
Q: Are there Issues Using Tactical Lights on Glock® Pistols?
A: Some Glock® .40 caliber pistols, models 22 and 23, exhibit feeding malfunctions, either nose down or nose up (stovepipe), when used with tactical lights. The problems tend to occur with individual guns, with some pistols becoming totally unreliable while other identical, even close in serial number sequence, guns have no problems. Most models 22 and 23 are reliable.

A sensitive gun may malfunction with any tactical light - the TLRs, the older M models, and even Glock®’s own brand. There is evidence that the problem sometimes develops with use, and may progress until the pistol is unreliable even with no light attached. On the basis of testing by Streamlight, we believe the problem is magazine related. It appears that the rounds are unable to rise fast enough for proper cycling. We have observed proper feeding for the first few rounds, consistent failures at mid-magazine capacity, and a return to proper feeding of the last few cartridges in the magazine.
We have tried both stronger and weaker recoil springs, and compound-action recoil buffers, all without success. Sometimes new magazine springs, either new Glock® or Wolff, will cure the problem. In one case of a pistol which was totally reliable when new but progressed to malfunctioning on every magazine, even with no light installed, we found two solutions which restored reliability, but which might not be acceptable to some users. The first was using 10 round capacity Glock® magazines. The gun will not cycle reliably with 15 round mags with their steeply stacked columns but works flawlessly with 10 round mags. The second solution was a new magazine follower from Brownells®, their part number 069-000-006. When used in a 15 round magazine with a new spring, reliability was restored. However, the follower would not lock the slide open after the last round.
Ammunition is also a factor with any weapon. Some brands and weights may be totally reliable while others jam repeatedly. Make sure your gun is thoroughly tested with your duty ammo.
Glock's frame is too flexible for long, metal ( not equally flexible material ) mount on the rail, as the one of the TLR...Of course, there are many people that are using TLRs on their Glocks and they could oppose the issue, for me this is just another argument as keeping the Glock stock because of the reliability issues - it is truth, but not for everybody, I would not put TLR on my Glock because it is proven that they have issues with it, switching some parts as extended mag release, slide stop, slide cover plate, metal guide rod, "-" disconnected and so on, are still gray area, very few people can say that their gun is actually malfunctioning because of these aftermarket parts, it is more of an issue with service weapons, so if I have to put something underneath my gun I would prefer to be as short as it can and made from the same material as my pistol's frame...

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Sig Forum said:
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Code 33, Posted May 21, 2011 12:43 AM

I work for the Oakland School Police, and can answer some of these questions.

They are doing range quals this week. Some of the gen 4 guns were experiencing double feeds and stovepipe malfunctions. Some guns had the problems go away after changing recoil springs, some did not get fixed by swapping out the spring. A lot experienced problems with lights attached to the rail. Thus, the recall of all 800 or so Glocks.

The news (if you can believe it) was wrong about the caliber. OPD has never issued Glock 17's. They switched from the gen 3 Glock 22 to gen 4's.
 

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That video is over a year old. It has been covered here probably more than once or twice. Not an issue.

As far as Glocks + TLR-1s in general having problems, let's see some links. I just waded through several pages of Google results and the only thing I see is that YouTube video.
 

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No, it's not.

Glock's frame is too flexible for long, metal ( not equally flexible material ) mount on the rail, as the one of the TLR
Dude, the video's creator admitted it was a bad spring and had nothing to do with the light. It can't get any clearer than that.

So, which lights out there have "flexible" rail bars that work on Glocks?
 

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Dude, the video's creator admitted it was a bad spring and had nothing to do with the light. It can't get any clearer than that.

So, which lights out there have "flexible" rail bars?
...and made from the same material as my pistol's frame...
It is different than "flexible" I'm sure you'll eventually get the idea, but to answer your question: most of the plastic frame lights/combos...they will flex with the frame, to some extend, during firing.
In respect to the links, they are in my previous post, I know the video is old, actually there is one more, similar to this, I believe it belongs to a guy located in Hawaii...

As I said - if you have one of the TLRs and it's working for you - great, I don't see anything wrong with it, but if you're guy that for some reason sticks to the principle of "keep it stock because of reliability issue", then you might want to consider a plastic-one, Glock makes his lights/combos from the same material not only because it's cheap ... :supergrin:
 

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My Gen 4 G23 would do the same without a light attached. Pulled slide off, took slide lock out and spring. Bent spring a bit so it would apply more tension on the slide lock. Problem gone.
 

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My bone stock Glock with no .25 trigger job, no light, no metal recoil rod, no ghost whatever, no stippling, no connector with plus or minus or dot on them, no New York whatever, no custom rear cover plate, no new recoil spring on and on and on and on works absolutely flawlessly. I think you get the idea.



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My bone stock Glock with no .25 trigger job, no light, no metal recoil rod, no ghost whatever, no stippling, no connector with plus or minus or dot on them, no New York whatever, no custom rear cover plate, no new recoil spring on and on and on and on works absolutely flawlessly. I think you get the idea./
Look at the G19 in the video. It's clean as a whistle, and has the slide lettering done in white. That pistol is his toy, he screwed around with it until he made it malfunction.

For Christ's sake, leave them stock and shoot them. Quit changing out stuff, polishing stuff, and coloring stuff on your pistols. Guns are tools, not vehicles for personal self-expression for touchy-feely types, and are not meant to be personalized.
 

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That is my video and my Glock. It was a faulty spring from the factory and something the factory admitted had happened to multiple Gen 4s created in the 6/10 period. Glock also keeps TLR-1s in their tech department to use on the guns if they need to test a light on rail etc. The tech, Anthony, had said that TLR-1s should cause NO problem on a glock rail, period.

I didn't tinker with anything on that gun. The only modification I did was put meprolight night sights on the gun. So save all the accusations and genius thoughts, yes that means you M&P15T. You have that many posts in that few months (troll much?). I swear fan boys are one the most annoying demographics on the internet.

I wouldn't worry about that issue anymore guys, it seems it is very rare and it also appears that the Gen 4 line has gotten many factory improvements recently so if you get a newer production model, I bet you'll be fine. Happy Glocking.
 

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For Christ's sake, leave them stock and shoot them. Quit changing out stuff, polishing stuff, and coloring stuff on your pistols. Guns are tools, not vehicles for personal self-expression for touchy-feely types, and are not meant to be personalized.
Bold brush you paint with...

My factory engraved nickled Colt SAA (circa 1921) was obviously manufactured for "personal self-expression" and is quite "personalized."
It is a very minty example and far from just a "tool" by todays's standards.

Anyone whow would treat an antique firearm or one of historic significance like any other "tool" is an idiot.

I have white Crayola on the windage/elevation ticks on my M1 and I am far from a tree-hugger. You see, it allows me to get into the 9-10x while you are winging it and trying to recall how many clicks up and left you need to go. :upeyes:
 

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Bold brush you paint with...

My factory engraved nickled Colt SAA (circa 1921) was obviously manufactured for "personal self-expression" and is quite "personalized."
It is a very minty example and far from just a "tool" by todays's standards.

Anyone whow would treat an antique firearm or one of historic significance like any other "tool" is an idiot.

I have white Crayola on the windage/elevation ticks on my M1 and I am far from a tree-hugger. You see, it allows me to get into the 9-10x while you are winging it and trying to recall how many clicks up and left you need to go. :upeyes:
And it's also the correct brush. No engraving, nickle plating, white crayon high-lighting lettering on a slide for aesthetic reasons, makes a firearm function better. And the more people take them apart and put them together, change parts that aren't broken, and try to make "improvements" to their firearm, the higher the likelyhood that they'll cause issues in the process. Once again, firearms are tools. Some treat them differently because they can't help themselves for emotional reasons, but they're still just tools.

And who is talking about antique firearms? Only you. And I don't own a Garand, so I don't know or care about what you're refering to, since it obviously has nothing to do with what I was discussing.
 
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