Gen4/5 Backstrap Preference

Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by WheelsUp, Sep 28, 2018.

  1. No addition, smallest configuration

    60.0%
  2. OEM Small backstrap, no beaver tail

    7.1%
  3. OEM Large backstrap, no beaver tail

    4.3%
  4. OEM Small beaver tail

    18.6%
  5. OEM Large beaver tail

    10.0%
  6. Aftermarket backstrap or beaver tail

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. WheelsUp

    WheelsUp Propaganda Dissemination Specialist

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    I use the larger beaver tail backstrap on all of my Gen4/Gen5 Glocks, and my wife shoots with no additional backstrap. I'm just curious what the majority of people use.
     
  2. Mike-M

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    Grip sizes on Gen4 and Gen5 pistols are:

    Small - No strap.
    Medium - Strap marked M (Small + 2mm).
    Large - Strap marked L (Small + 4mm).

    Your poll unnecessarily confuses things by referring to the strap marked M as "small".

    The only opinion I'll offer is that the beavertail straps are pointless, given the Glock's extraordinary low height of bore axis above grip. The beavertail helps only those who insist on using the same high hold that's much more appropriate for high bore axis pistols like M1911 clones and similar knock-offs.
     
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  3. jamppp

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    I have XL hands. Large just fits better
     
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    LinuxLover Ba-nan-nah-nuh

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    I believe I was told that if you wrap your grip hand around the pistol and your thumb ends right where your first joint is on your middle finger, then the size is perfect for you.

    Shooting a G20.4 with no changes to the backstrap has my fingers fitting according to that rule someone told me.

    This is of course, with the oft-hated finger grooves on the Gen4 that I particularly like.

    If one shoots single- or off-handed, those grooves make for a very healthy grip on the weapon.
     
  5. vista461

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    Medium beaver tail cut about a half inch or so below the pin. Benefit of the beaver tail with a smaller grip.
     
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    I never use it, but I figure that Beavertail just helps you grab and grip faster and more consistently.
    My hands are average.
    The no-strap GLOCKs fit just right.
     
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    The poll is somewhat pointless but I voted anyway.
     
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  8. Valmet

    Valmet M62/76 Silver Member

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    I have larger hands, my Gen3 21 with a Hogue grip sleeve fits my hand well but oddly enough on my Gen4 and Gen5 19, I prefer no backstrap at all.
     
  9. Mr Meeseeks

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    I truly haven’t decided yet. I shot my 45 a little bit and felt like it would benefit from a medium backstrap. (Also wish it had finger grooves, but this ain’t Burger King).

    I’m a little skeptical of all this natural fit stuff. With pracrice, any shooter should be able to move their dominant hand around the grip +/- 2mm in order to gain an optimal trigger reach. I also suspect people are quick to conflate what feels good in the hand with what performs well for them. They aren’t necessarily the same thing.
     
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    Lunch Meat Tactical Mennonite

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    Medium, no beaver tail for my 19
    Nothing for the 26

    SWMBO prefers no backstrap
     
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    Tell that to the cuts on my hand I get every time I shoot my G19.3 for an extended period. Given the size of the 19 grip, and the fact I can barely get a full grip to begin with, I fail to see how I could grip it any lower.

    You are correct with the grip size thing however.
     
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    I only own two Gen4's and no Gen5's, but I will say that I prefer the largest beavertail on my G19, but prefer no backstrap whatsoever on my G41. 'Tis odd, but there it is.

    In my opinion Glock pistols do not have an extraordinary low bore axis, whereas others do, i.e., the Steyr pistols, which in my mind don't require backstraps because of their existing very ergonomic grip shape.

    And about grip? Many years ago I realized that it's impossible for me to change my grip no matter what model or manufacturer of handgun I'm shooting, and I've about shot them all, from mouse guns to DE's.
     
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    Agreed. CZs and EAAs have low bore axis. Not Glocks.

    To me, the Glock beavertails move my hands down and worsen the bore axis. Not a fan.

    Medium backstrap so my hold is the same across all generations of my Glocks. Also helps prevent Glock knuckle for me.
     
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    Bradd D

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    M no BT on 9mm frames. Nothing on 45 frames.
     
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    Maybe this "Backstrap" question confuses me a little, making me go to the Official Glock Buyer's Guide magazine, trying to wrap my head around the circumferential dimension of the assorted pistol grips.

    The problem as I see it is that I don't own nor have I even handled many (most) of the pistols being talked about here and therefor I have little reference point about which to ... er, 'refer'.

    I am somewhat sure there are others who own fewer than three/two Glocks.
    Single stack?
    Double stack?
    .380 Watch Pocket, aka: "Engineer's Pistol"?
    1911 9mm?
    G43.x?
    G26.x?
    Rotary drum?
    Belt fed?​

    The G20.4 I own has a double stack and frankly I have no need to increase the circumference of it by adding to it with a thicker addition. My right hand wraps it nicely with nothing left over.

    However, if I owned a G33.x, I would be happy with the thickest backstrap and half a roll of duct tape.
    There is no human "standard" of which I am aware.
    This has been a problem for a long time....[​IMG]

    But perhaps someone (with talents greater than I) could form a chart with tabs for........
    1. WIDTH OF PALM,
    2. LENGTH OF MIDDLE FINGER,
    3. INCHES (or Sillimeters) FROM TIP OF THUMB TO TIP OF PINKIE
    4. SHOE SIZE (actual, not wishful, if you get my drift here)
    5. NUMBER OF DIGITS ACTUALLY (or: CURRENTLY) ON SHOOTER'S HAND.​

    IOW..... all this anecdotal info is very interesting, but confusing at the same time; a breakdown of caliber and stacked-ness (single/double) would make it much more digestible once one factors in the human aspect.
     
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    I keep waffling between no backstrap and the medium. I think right now I prefer the medium. No backstrap might feel slightly better but for some reason I don't think I shoot it as well. Trigger finger too hooked maybe.

    Don't care for the beavertail but could get used to it.

    Sometimes too many choices are distracting.
     
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    When I bought my G19-4, I found that I was shooting slightly more accurately & consistently with the M beavertail. (I experimented with all of them) My theory is that I may be holding it more consistently & without the beavertail, my grip may have been just a bit higher or lower. I don't know. What I do know is that the M beavertail & finger grooves configuration feels the best in my hand. Not everyone will have the same opinion, but that's what works for me.
     
  18. Mr Meeseeks

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    I’vd Heard many claims that Glock has one of the lowest bore axis. I’ve certainly always thought so. These guys rank it toward the very best low bore axis. I don’t know if their methodology is controversial or not:

    https://www.guntweaks.com/pistol-bore-axis-comparison-what-is-low-bore-axis.html
     
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    Looks like Steyer is the winner. I can get one locally for $375. I’ve been drooling over them for ages but frankly I’m too far down the Glock road to justify a change at this point.