Gen 5 40 models (pics)

Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by NFEDERIC, Aug 11, 2020.

  1. GRR

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    I carry a gen3 23 that’s been shot a lot since 1998. Recoil nor wear is an issue.
     
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    That's what I'm afraid of. The Brazilian gen 5 G22's had thicker heavier slides just like the 45 GAP used to have. I wouldn't mind it on a G22, but on the G23 and G27's that are meant for IWB carry, it makes the gun less desirable.

    My first Glock was a G19. But then when I found out that I could have the same exact size and weight gun in a more powerful caliber, I upgraded to a G23.

    If the Gen 5's G23's have the thicker slide, I'll probably pass. Additionally, I hate forward slide serrations and wish Glock would make them optional.
     
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    Glock just updated their engineering on the 40 calibers to make them a bit more tame. I had no issues with the 40 either, but there is no doubt, there were complaints about the 40 caliber and it's recoil characteristics. Like all manufacturers, they are trying to improve on it's shoot ability for a wider range of shooters.


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    They are wider, but not as much as the GAP guns were. The 40 Cal Gen5's are .08 inches wider than the current Gen5 9mm's.

    The GAP slides were actually as wide as the G20 and G21 slides, but they had radiused edges which made them seem a bit smaller visually.


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    The GAPs should have had thin slides. For a 45, the 30S and 41 are the ACPs designed around the cartridge. The GAPs could have been likewise.
     
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    I agree, despite what Glock may have been trying to do, they should have just built the Gen5 40's around the same design parameters as the 9's.

    Gen 3 and 4 40 caliber guns have been running with no issues, and glock should have just updated their designs to the Gen5 without the added slide mass.

    From and LE standpoint, it is a huge advantage in retainment when you try to move a current customer to a new generation of the same platform, when it doesn't require a whole new set of gear.


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    So why does the 30s and 41 have thin slides? +p 45s are pretty snappy. The 40 does NOT need a thicker slide.
     
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    So...now that we’ve made it this far, bring on Gen 5 10mm! :waving:
     
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    This will push a lot of LEA’s into considering other options.

    When we moved from the Gen3 to the Gen4’s, a huge selling point was that all of our gear would work and we would have updated firearms. If we had to buy new holsters, mag pouches, send people to new armorers’ schools, retrain all officers on the new weapon system, it would have been a deal breaker.

    We got new guns for around $100-150, per weapon. Some short time on the range, to ensure function, and done.

    New holsters and mag pouches are $150-250, depending on particulars. There, you’ve already doubled the cost of “upgrading” firearms and haven’t got to training. Now, everyone who likes FN, S&W, SA, Sig Sauer, etc has an argument to go from Glock to the platform they prefer, since they’ll have to buy gear and retrain, anyway.
     
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    I agree, and I wouldn't have done it, but Glock decided it was a better option.

    I was pretty sure Glock was going that route with the slides after seeing the MHS23 a few years back. That was the test mule for the 40 cal Gen 5 platform, and apparently they liked it enough to stick with that design.


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    nikerret Mr. Awesome

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    You posted this while I was typing. It seems we agree.
     
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    Exactly, all those add on can break a line item on a budget.


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    In a way, it’s impressive a company as large and successful as GLOCK can make such a bonehead move. It’s almost like they, too, want to push toward 9mm.
     
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    Yup, as someone who has written budgets for department issues weapons, a few thousand dollars one way or another can kill a project altogether.


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    I don’t know what I’m complaining about. I won’t have a gen5 anyway. The continuation of the unnecessary dual recoil spring and ambi slide stop kill the deal for me. And yes I’m left handed.
     
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    I like what I see, and am a .40 fan boy, but I think I will keep trying to find an old FPF G-3 G-23 next and wait a bit to see how they perform, and then get a BL from my dealer.
     
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    I would like to see a G21/41 hybrid .... G21 slide length, G41 slide width.

    Not gonna happen, but a man can dream.

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    I don't see any mention of the G35Gen5 or G24Gen5. Did I miss it?
     
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    I agree. Also, I would like to think technology has improved since the .40 was first introduced to make stronger polymer receivers.