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Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by devildog2067, Mar 14, 2010.
It doesn't seem like she was very much in since she married her partner, moved her partner to Alaska with her and picked a partner who is inclined to get the attention of law enforcement by being a thief. Que lastima.
"I played by 'don't ask, don't tell,'" Newsome told The Associated Press by telephone.
Umm, no you didn't. Part of DADT is that you won't get married to your partner.
I don't particularly like or agree with DADT, but she violated it willingly and blatantly.
Does anyone else think our culture's 'elite' have taken leave of their senses?
God save us from political correctness, which is leading us over a cliff (the ACLU is right up there pushing as hard as it can).
Since when is a someone obligated to assist LE in the location or apprehension of their spouse?
I'm not buying that for one second.
How so? Would any other employer be notified because the police were looking for the employee's spouse?
Regardless of your stance on gays in the military, I don't see how notifying Sgt. Newsome's command of her sexual orientation had anything whatsoever to do with Rapid City PD's investigation.
That entire story smells to high heaven.
There's a very significant part left out somewhere?
umm, i don't know what branch you have been in but that is standard,
-if i get a traffic ticket i have to notify my chain of command
-if i get arrested i have to notify my chain of command
freedom went out the window when you signed the dotted line
It's been long known if one wants out of military service - declaring gay status usually gets the desired result -
I could understand that if Sgt. Newsome herself was the target of the investigation; do LEAs routinely notify the chain of command whenever a servicemember's family member is sought?
Could be asking if the subject of the warrant was there on the base.
Law enforcement does NOT notify the military of arrests of service members.
I was arrested while in the USAF for a misdemeanor. I asked if they would
call the base and I was told no.
I was able to take leave and do community service and no one was the
wiser. It's a miracle that I pulled it off, but I did.
You're supposed to, but you don't have to.
Why make a bad situation worse?
There's nothing they can do to you if you don't let them know.
If it's something that disqualifies you for military service or will put you
in jail, then obviously you have no choice but to notify the military of your arrest.
Since when is it off limits for the Police to ask questions of a spouse?
Your lack of belief does not make it not so.
Possibly, in any case Police Departments located near military bases are well aware that the military is able to exert pressure on people that other employers can't. Also the possibility existed that the Sergeant had signed her spouse onto the base which would have made the Police potentially remiss in their duties for not checking out the base as a hiding spot.
I knew a 2nd Class who's career was ruined because his wife smoked hashish with a Commanders 17 year old daughter while he was deployed. If a person has a spouse of questionable character (like a thief, for example) the military does have a need to know due to security clearance concerns and MICE. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motives_for_spying As far as how it came out I suggest the possibility of "How is our Sergeant involved with this suspect?" being asked and answered. Is it really beyond the realm of possibility that a question that simple was asked and answered? Or that the Marriage license was on display in the home?
It does make you wonder doesn't it.
I really don't see how it is the PDs fault, you simply can't expect them to think about the "don't ask, don't tell" policy when looking for a fugitive. They didn't run to tell officials about the Sgt's, they only notified officials that they wanted the Sgt's help tracing down her spouse after the Sgt refused to leave. That said, she still retains her 5A rights and could have easily left the base, knowing how sensitive the situation is, and went home to refuse to help. That is the game you have to play when your employer has this ignorant policy and she knew it before she signed up. The policy is discriminatory and needs to be abolished, that's really the only thing wrong in this case.
in short , yes
or adlest i couldn't see why not, the LEOs would know i work on base , one quick call to the security forces desk or Sqn Commander and either the first Sgt would call me into his office or Security Forces (MP for everyone else) would take me on a tour of the station the only saving grace i can hope for is my First Sgt contacts base legal
just because we are under the UCMJ doesn't mean we are not under civilian law also
- i knew men who spend a night in jail after stealing a palm tree out of a bar, the next month they were discharged or in the process of
I'm a bit confused........................just which part of the Constitution gives us that "right to privacy" again?
Pray tell, which part? Police had no business sending any kind of report to one spouse's employer concerning the other spouse. A guy gets arrested and the police send a report to his wife's employer? That is simple BS vindictiveness. If true, those guys should be fired or at a minimum suspended without pay and demoted from detective.
and no matter what the punishment the officers will receive one SSGT's career just went down the tube