[Gman3101]

A chopped 43x, using an aftermarket mag catch as well as aftermarket mags will not, and cannot, be as reliable as a Glock 26 in full oem configuration.

That is irrefutable.

proof?

 

[Gman3101]

I think he’s meaning that the Shield Arms mags make them less reliable rather then a stock 43x or 26.

But they don’t. At least they haven’t for me.

And multiple people I know.

As I said earlier, this is a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist, but I have had 100% reliability with my Shield magazines.

 

[John_AZ]

For some people, there’s no way an aftermarket company can be as reliable or more reliable than Glocks, no matter what.

Even if the parts/guns are as reliable.

That said, I don’t know anything about the reliability of the grip chop and the magazines made by Shield Arms in the guns. But as much as I won’t say they ARE as reliable without testing them, I won’t say they AREN’T because I just don’t know.

 

[yep380]

Is your 43x chopped and using the new chopped mag?

No.

A chopped 43x, using an aftermarket mag catch as well as aftermarket mags will not, and cannot, be as reliable as a Glock 26 in full oem configuration.

That is irrefutable. A sample size of 1 owner that happens to own an unchopped 43x and a G26 is irrelevant.

I didn’t get that from what you said before.

I agree with what you said above.

 

[flaman]

Shorter, thinner, and lighter than a G26.

Yes... it would fit many more hands than the G-26. I'm not a Shield Arms fan, but I'm at least a little intrigued with the idea of this modification. I never would have imagined all this negative feedback on a Glock forum..

I love the G43 and carry P365, but I TRUST Glock's mechanics over Sig. I'd be interested in the cut down because it would essentially give us a double stack G-43. If this finished product were offered by Glock, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

 

[Paintshirtred]

WTF, just buy a G26 and be done with it....

And have a grip circumference more shootable for man hands and carry a G-19 mag with 15 in your pocket or, just stick it in the gun.

 

[Chuck Finley69]

I'm not a rich person so I purchase my firearms very methodically and logically. I value many simple factors but I think of like tools and like compatability.

I only purchase 9mm, Glocks and pre-owned from reputable LGS to leverage and lower ownership costs. I own 17, 19, 26, 43 and 43X right now. I've had my eye on lookout for 34, 48 and to lesser extent some of the model variants.

I've stuck to Glock OEM version magazines for less obvious logic. If a company makes a product, it's not just about quality and satisfying customer demand. It's about what the company won't put it's name on when it easily could. The best example I can think of is 26 standard OEM 10 rd magazine vs OEM 12 rd magazine that is +2 extension magazine. I have small hands but the short 26 magazine feels different to hold and shoot for me.

I could buy several aftermarket +2 and more extended magazines. I could substitute a 19 or 17 magazine due to compatability. I simply question why Glock is choosing to leave money on table and simply remind myself Gaston and executive team aren't that stupid. There must be some ideas that don't make the best of sense for the product line, kind of like how Apple designs it's product lineup compared with Google or Microsoft offerings.

 

[Dawgfan165]

WTF, just buy a G26 and be done with it....

True Dat

 

[Bongo Lewi]

I’m not following the logic of cutting the grip, adding a red dot and a threaded barrel. Make the gun smaller and larger at the same time?

Not to mention special mags. No thanks. I believe it would be hard to sell that gun later. I wouldn’t buy it.

To each his own I guess.

 

[CBennett]

Nope, don't feel it.

It LOOKS great...I think its stupid though...just get the 43 instead......but to each their own.. Oh and I dont need a probably will work but dont know aftermarket mag like the S series in my carry gun if it cant fit stock(that work) mags id be 100% NOT interested...

And I get it youre gonna have some amount of guys using the S series mags that have never had a issue and then on the other hand you also have a PROVEN group that have had them and they dont work..thats enough for me not to want to "risk it".

 

[No Quarter]

proof?

I should not have to teach you how mechanical systems work. You are introducing additional failure points to the system. A Glock 26 has been around for decades. Time tested and proved out. You are taking a relatively new firearm, the 43x, changing a rather important physical dimension, and adding an unproven magazine from a manufacturer that has a rather brief track record.

How is that hard to understand?

 

[Hydra-SHOKz]

Kinda like this one I picked up yesterday. 10+1 flush and 13+1 extended is a pretty nice setup. Problem with chopping the Glock is, what happens if it isn't reliable with S10 mags? Do you make sure it's reliable with S15 mags before you chop?

 

[Rocks]

Canik METE MC9 over chopping. For a couple of hundred dollars or less with the cost of chopping and mags, you can have another pistol.

 

[Bongo Lewi]

Kinda like this one I picked up yesterday. 10+1 flush and 13+1 extended is a pretty nice setup. Problem with chopping the Glock is, what happens if it isn't reliable with S10 mags? Do you make sure it's reliable with S15 mags before you chop?

I have to admit that a nice looking compact. How do you like it?

 

[Hydra-SHOKz]

I have to admit that a nice looking compact. How do you like it?

I like it, but just got it yesterday along with the EPS Carry MRS RD. This RDS is awesome! Won't get to shoot the pistol until tomorrow. The pistol is well made. Fit and finish are better than Glock. The machining is excellent. I broke it all the way down last night because they use a lot of freakin' oil on these. The parts are really nice. I do not like that you have to take the optic off to get the extractor out, but everything else is just like a Glock. I have 8 more mags coming and just picked up 10 cases of 115gr S&B FMJ's. I have all the other micro nines, so I'll see how this one stacks up. I'm a huge G43 fan, so if it's reliable, I'll likely love it.

 

[Gman3101]

I should not have to teach you how mechanical systems work. You are introducing additional failure points to the system. A Glock 26 has been around for decades. Time tested and proved out. You are taking a relatively new firearm, the 43x, changing a rather important physical dimension, and adding an unproven magazine from a manufacturer that has a rather brief track record.

How is that hard to understand?

So, no proof.

But lots of conjecture.

 

[73Bronco]

Problem with chopping the Glock is, what happens if it isn't reliable with S10 mags? Do you make sure it's reliable with S15 mags before you chop?

This right here is a key point. I've been following the Shield Arms drama from the get go and it really seems to be about how well the gun and magazine work together. I've had luck, others have not. I would hate to chop my grip and then find out it doesn't work well with the Shied Mags.

 

[wickedbeernut]

This right here is a key point. I've been following the Shield Arms drama from the get go and it really seems to be about how well the gun and magazine work together. I've had luck, others have not. I would hate to chop my grip and then find out it doesn't work well with the Shied Mags.

If someone is going to pursue the "S10 magazine will work in a grip-chopped G43X if a S15 magazine worked in the same G43X (prior to the time the grip was chopped)" theory, they should use the new gen3 S15 magazines. Shield Arms is using a new manufacturer and has made "a couple of tweaks" to the S15 magazine. Shield Arms is saying the S10 magazine is the result of "modular tooling" which would imply the S10 magazine and gen3 S15 magazine have a lot in common. Time will tell whether the gen3 S15 magazine works any better (or worse) than the gen2 S15 magazine.

 

[GigG]

Having to use Shield Arms mags would make it a no go for me.

 

[Para-bellum]

I like it, but just got it yesterday along with the EPS Carry MRS RD. This RDS is awesome! Won't get to shoot the pistol until tomorrow. The pistol is well made. Fit and finish are better than Glock. The machining is excellent. I broke it all the way down last night because they use a lot of freakin' oil on these. The parts are really nice. I do not like that you have to take the optic off to get the extractor out, but everything else is just like a Glock. I have 8 more mags coming and just picked up 10 cases of 115gr S&B FMJ's. I have all the other micro nines, so I'll see how this one stacks up. I'm a huge G43 fan, so if it's reliable, I'll likely love it.

I have it, it is an incredibly accurate shooter. Probably the most accurate micro I own. Like you I own all the other micros except for the Ruger Max 9. I don’t like that pistol at all.