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G29 Gen 4 recoil?

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#1 ·
I have a G26 Gen 4 with the TLR6 I use for home defense and in our vehicle when traveling. (I use a G42 with TLR6 for pocket carry or P3aT with clip for conceal carry usually) I like the 26 but I am thinking of eventually trading it, or selling it maybe, to get a G29 Gen4 and the TLR6 for a light. I have never shot 10mm so I wanted to see if those who have could give me an idea on recoil with the compact Glock. Not interested in the full size or long slide models as I want as small as possible because occasionally I do conceal carry the G26 and would also the 29. Also finances don't allow me to "get both" at this time so the 26 would probably have to go if I do this

Is a 29 pretty stout to shoot, lets say with Federal HST? Is it controllable? I used to have a G30 and didn't have any problem with shooting it with full power loads but I understand the 10mm is stronger. Not trying to be a wimp, but I don't want something that will be so punishing I can't hit anything.
 
#2 ·
It will be snappier than a GLock 30 only if/when the true 'full power' 10mm ammo is used or handloaded...

If on a very budget limited, I'd stick with the 9x19, put your money towards a Lee classic loader (avail for about $28, however not avail in 10 mm, however) , save your brass, and start reloading, and shoot two or three times as much....

Jumping into 10mm will not really help anything, expense-wise....; ammo costs are higher, and even if a reloader, bullets are heavier and cost more.
 
#3 ·
What are your concerns with regard to recoil?

If it is follow up speed, full house 10mm loads (like Underwood or Buffalo Bore) will be more challenging to shoot well on a clock, than say 9mm.

If it is concern with felt recoil, perhaps you have an arthritis condition, then again, the hottest 10mm rounds will be more challenging than say even the hottest 9mm's.

In general, both the G20 and G29, even with the hottest boutique loads are not in the class of a full house 44RM when it comes to recoil (or terminal performance). I can shoot my hottest handloads with either my G20 or G29 all day long if I choose.

Federal doesn't make a 10mm HST. For the most part, if you want max 10mm for SD, you will be limited to smaller boutique manufacturer loads using Speer Gold or Hornaday XTP bullets. I load my own 10mm loads, both from a cost standpoint as well as getting a load exactly tailored to my needs. 10mm is a very flexible round, a round that is best exploited by someone who can load their own ammo.
 
#7 ·
Absolutely spot on! I carry a G29, Gen 4 every day with Underwood 165gr JHP (Gold Dot). The recoil is not that big of a deal really. Not much more than my G30S. Maybe a bit sharper but a piece of cake really. Federal does not make an HST for the 10mm and the !0mm they do make are surely not "nuclear".

Find a range and rent one and make sure you're shooting what you plan on carrying!
 
#4 ·
Yes, you are going to experience heavier recoil with a Subcompact 10mm than a 9mm by far. My wife has a G-46 .40 and that was plenty snappy, so I purchased a heavier guide rod and spring to mitigate that recoil.
 
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#5 ·
Remember that there two versions of the G29, a thick one and a slim version. I opted to buy the thicker version that has a heavy thick slide. I fire hot ammo out of it. The recoil is significant compared to my Glock23. I can put follow up rounds on target in just under a second but I practice. I also have own a G27 (A small .40 caliber), the G27 stings my hands and and has more flip than my G29. There is no free lunch. The lighter the weapon and the heavier your projectiles the more recoil you are going to experience.
 
#8 ·
Remember that there two versions of the G29, a thick one and a slim version. I opted to buy the thicker version that has a heavy thick slide. I fire hot ammo out of it. The recoil is significant compared to my Glock23. I can put follow up rounds on target in just under a second but I practice. I also have own a G27 (A small .40 caliber), the G27 stings my hands and and has more flip than my G29. There is no free lunch. The lighter the weapon and the heavier your projectiles the more recoil you are going to experience.
I think you may be confusing the various G30, G30s and G36 models (45 Auto).

Glock only makes a G29SF and G29 Gen 4 and they are substantially identical dimension and weight wise.

Glock did make the original G29 which did have a larger grip in the length of pull dimension and felt substantially larger to many people in the grip, but the slide weighed the same.
 
#9 ·
Is it controllable? I used to have a G30 and didn't have any problem with shooting it with full power loads but I understand the 10mm is stronger.
Power factor numbers will tell you a lot since both the G29 and G30 are relatively the same size. Good SD ammo for .45 comes in around 218 PF. Good SD ammo for 10mm is around 232 PF. In that sense, there isn't a big diff, but keep in mind the 10mm is exiting the barrel at a greater speed which has some bearing in felt recoil, but the PF tells the bigger tale. Shooting the 29 back to back with a 30 and you'll feel a diff, but it isn't going to be the 'explosive cannon power' some say it is. My opinion is if you can't rapid fire the G26, well, I wouldn't get a G29. 'Well' is a mag dump at 7 yds and hitting an 8" pie plate every shot (my version of 'well', at least).
 
#10 ·
WeeWilly mentioned the fact that the 10mm can be loaded up and down. The G29 covers that well. You can go from mild 40 to the most powerful Sub-Compact Glock in the same pistol. You have no problem finding reduced power ammo to practice with, or for general use, as most main stream factory ammunition was watered down years ago. Finding Full Power ammunition is where you need to know what to order.
I am in the process of loading some Bear Loads for a buddy's 29. He is getting ready to go out West and wanted some serious ammunition to take with him. NOTE: My Bear Loads with 200 grain XTP's will be Book Max Loads, not some of the Nuclear Loads I read about.
I hope to avoid getting my hands on a G29SF, I might like it.

Bob R
 
#12 ·
Also finances don't allow me to "get both" at this time so the 26 would probably have to go if I do this.
Whatever you do, be sure you can fund ample range time for proficiency. I'd much prefer shooting twice as much 9mm than a modest amount of 10mm. I also think the G26 is absolutely indispensable, satisfying critical needs in one model; size, weight and capacity (10 or 15 rnds). Rather than replace, augment with a G29 when funds permit. My last nickel says you'll have no regrets about forever owning both. If shooting 10 for the long-haul, reloading has its' merits.

I'm referring to the WIDTH and hence mass of the slide on the G29. I do not recommend G29SF because slide is thinner.
On the 29, it's a one-slide-fits-all sizing. Only the frames differ between a SF and a standard/non-SF model.
 
#17 ·
Thanks for all the replies and information, that’s what I was wanting to learn. I don’t fear recoil, just whether it can be controlled for follow up shots and accuracy.

I do like the 26 and my wife is able to shoot it whereas I doubt she could the 29 after seeing some of the replies, and that’s an important thing to me. I may just have to save and look at this in the future.
 
#19 ·
I have a G29 Gen 4 and it is my favorite gun. I don't shoot the super high powered loads, but I find the Sig ammo at 1250 fps (I know I don't get this from the 29) is very controllable and easy to shoot well. You can tell you are shooting something with some power, but it is not uncomfortable. I have the pinky extensions on 2 mags and think I actually prefer the feel of the gun without the extension. Think I will be taking them off shortly.

I took my friend to the range last week, he has a 9mm and had never shot a 45 or 10mm. I let him shoot my G21 and he liked it. Then he shot the G29 and he loved it, he is getting one! He was so concerned about the recoil from the 10, but once he shot it his concern went away. Again, I am shooting mid-power level loads, but I have no doubt I could handle Underwood pretty easily in the G29.
 
#20 ·
I LOVE the 26. It’s my edc or my shield. The 29 is my woods stomping buddy or edc archery/hunting companion. I don’t personally carry the 29 otherwise. It shoots fantastic and surprisingly, I’m most accurate with my 29 compared to other glocks. Follow up shots are slower than 9mm but power is the trade off. Fantastic weapons and worthy to have both for alternating purposes.

Rick
 
#21 ·
My edc is a 26 and I shoot that very well compared to most handguns I have owned, larger or smaller. I have a 29SF that I got for hiking carry and recently tested it with some Buffalo Bore Hard Cast 220gr. it is a pretty stout round and probably as hot as I will go. I wanted the hard cast specifically for when we go hiking. I got a Wolff guide rod and spring calibration pack. I started with the 21lb spring and all ammo I carry and shoot cycles perfectly so I am sticking with it. There is a noticeable difference in recoil going from my 26 to 29 especially with the BB. Mainly my follow up is slower. I will only get better over time the more I shoot it. It is a fantastic firearm, a lot of power in small package. My SD round is Speer Gold Dot 200gr and primarily Freedom Munitions 180gr RNFP for the range. Also grabbed some Remington UMC locally for a good deal and that is pretty similar to the FM. The Gold Dot shot the softest by a tiny amount. Those rounds range from 1050psi up to 1200psi. That is reported out of longer barrel however. The 29 will probably be slightly less than that.
 
#22 ·
Strangely, I found that if I fire one handed from the hip, I never get a FTF. (Never understood why that works. Maybe it's because I'm shooting from lower from my center of mass?)
I have inadvertently discovered that I shoot the G43 better one handed. I'm wondering if it has something to do with muscle and bone alignment that provides a more rigid hand support than when using two hands. I'd like to do some experiments with the G29 to see if the results are similar.

BTW, I think the SF means "short frame" (front to back) as opposed to "slim frame" (width). I think the acronym confuses folks into thinking the frame is not as wide.
 
#27 ·
A lot of the factory 10mm ammo is loaded close to 40 S&W pressure levels. I have found the recoil of these in my G29 to be about the same as experienced with my G27. When shooting full power 10mm loads the G29 has more snappy recoil but it is still very shootable. A good pair of shooting gloves takes care of the recoil discomfort for me.
 
#29 ·
I have no idea what HD stands for?! High Definition? Hunting Deer? Home Defense? I had a hard enough time with CCW but I don't have a clue with HD! Please enlighten me. I do like my Glock 29 and have it with anytime I leave the house. Sometime when I return home I forget that I'm wearing it, like now.