G17 vs G17c

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  1. loudshirt

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    I m looking into getting a G17 or 17C. The main purpose of this gun would be for IDPA with a secondary purpose of being a carry gun for work ( I am a lowly security guard :sigh:). So the main question I have is there any real difference in firing the two? Less recoil and such? I would look at the G34 but it is not a good choice for me to carry at work.
     
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    Get the 17c and add a regular 17 barrel to your collection. Then you have both guns with one extra barrel. I answered this without the IDPA portion of your question in mind.
     
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    The "C" would not be legal in IDPA.
     
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    Some believe that the upward vented flash produced by th 17C can take your night vision.
     
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    The 17 is a *****cat. I see no reason for a compensated barrel. Even with super hot 127gr +p+ Ranger loads.
    It may give you faster double taps however. *shrug

    Now a gun like the 23 would benefit from being compensated IMHO.
     
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    Well, I vote G17 - you can't use a C model in IDPA and I've never actually seen anybody use one in law enforcement or security. Personally, I wouldn't own one, but it would probably work OK.
     
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    Might want to check whether that's allowed in IDPA - not sure. Might not be allowed at all or might put you in ESP division.
     
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    No need for a G17C. just get a regular G17
     
  9. Bill Lumberg

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    Plenty of c models are in use for police duty. No concern with debris, flash, or firing from retention. That said, only more accomplished shooters are likely to benefit from porting, especially in 9mm.
     
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    I have a 17 and a 17c. I use the 17c as a range gun. The recoil is the same. but you will notice a little less muzzle rise, so you can maintain a better sight picture while shooting. It is louder than a non compensated pistol. I don't notice any muzzle flash when shooting in low light conditions. There is not a significant difference between the two. I use the standard 17 for carry.
     
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    I've yet to shoot a regular 17, but I shot a 17C (with some 1100fps JHP reloads) back to back with my 19. The 17C felt like shooting a Five-seveN compared to my 19
     
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    Get the 17.

    Firing a compensated barrel at night is a problem.
    Not to mention you can get burnt from firing in a compromised position.

    You won't have these problems with a 17.
    Plus there are many other good statements made for getting the 17.
     
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    He won't have those problems with the C model or the non-ported model. Using any commonly available factory ammo, flash from night firing isn't a concern, nor is firing from retention. If fired plenty of courses and quals with c models, including extended night fire and firing from retention with the ports right under my chin. Zero issues. Either gun would be a fine choice.
     
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    Myth busted on that......


    As someone else said, the 9mm Glock is a sweetheart to shoot, you really won't get much benefit from the comp.

    The .40, on the other hand, improves quite a bit with a compensated system....
     
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    Looks like I will look into the G17 a bit more.

    I know some of you said a 17c would be illegal for IDPA. I was thinking they would be legal since the G34 and G35 were legal. Now I also thought that the XD was in the SSP class and I was wrong about that :)
     
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    Hey Ranger1968...What reference material can I view regarding the myth busting on the Night vision thing. I'm not being sarcastic. I'm just curious because that's the stated reason that the compensated Glock models are not authorized by DEA. DEA has a serious firearms unit that tests firearms and ammunition to ridiculous standards. They typically deal in facts. There are so many authorized pistols to choose from, I wouldn't blame them if they said, "We just can't stock parts for yet another model."

    The good news on the testing is that if the gun has a weakness, they'll find it.
     
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    I would just go for the plain Jane G17
     
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    Loudshirt,

    The G34 and G35 may appear to be compensated due to the cut-out in the slide, but they are not. The cut-out is to reduce slide weight.
     
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    As he stated, Get the G17C and get you a stock G17 barrel
     
  20. Bill Lumberg

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    No night vision issues from a c model. If a c model causes you problems, a non ported model will, and an aggressively comped M4 shorty would melt your face.