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G17 G4 Brass Facial

Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by Squeeze, Jul 19, 2012.

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  1. Squeeze

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    OK, time to catch up on the latest RSA for a G17 Gen4
    with weak ejection. I tried polishing the extractor, per
    discussions, directions, and pictures posted on GT. No Go.

    Background: New Blue Label G17 G4(don't have the fired
    date at the moment, some time last Nov IIRC), purchased
    in March. Came out of the box ejecting brass at my head.
    This was with wimpy loads, my wife uses for practice in
    her M&P 9c. OK, loaded some max power SD loads, and
    they made it over my head, mostly, but still very close to
    my position(2' maybe 3' at the most in a circle...yes even
    my left side)...G27 and G20 launch full power loaded cases
    6'-8' to my 4 o'clock, and a chronic weak ejecting G30 SF,
    3'-4' to my 4 o'clock. I really don't want to shoot max
    power SD loads to keep most of the brass from bouncing
    off my head and shooting glasses...

    So I am starting to believe it is a combination of RSA
    and extractor. I am headed to the MN GSSF match this
    weekend, and will be visiting with the GSSF armorer. But
    as prep, I would like to know what is the suggested RSA
    version to fixed the brass facial machine. :upeyes:

    So what is the current RSA part number, expected to
    fix G17-G4 weak extraction? Please don't tell me 032.

    A bit more background: Stock G17-G4 except for connector,
    which was replaced with a Glock 4.5 connector, that
    has been lightly polished. About 1000 rounds through the
    pistol.

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    Squeeze,

    For the G17 Gen4, the RSA should be 0-2-4 SPO #8284
     

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    Bean,

    Thanks. I could have sworn that last night when I
    stripped it, the RSA was stamped 0(middle left), 3(lower
    center), 2(center right). Maybe it was 0-2-2.

    Guess I need a new RSA.

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    As an added note, I load my own ammo and usually have use the mid- to close-to-max load data for G17.

    I couldn't believe how some of the minimum loads would not even cycle the slide at times, much less dribble out the spent case.
     
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    Looks like you were almost to the current revision RSA. It's read 9/3/6 o'clock, so your current spring would be 0-2-3

    I hope that the new assembly does the trick for you. I really like using G17 to benchmark all of my 9X19 loads when using new powders or projectiles.
     
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    I recently worked for Glock having left last month. Horrible company to work for but that's another thread all in its own.

    Do you have the most current ejector? The extractor is not different. Send me your email and I'll send you the most current parts list for your pistol direct from Glock. The new revised RSA with the proper ejector makes a huge difference. Also make sure you are holding the pistol high on the back strap as possible.

    As a side note, Glock's policy was 'we don't do recalls, only updates'. Every time some owner complained about their 17 or 19 blowing shells in their faces, Glock's reply was 'shooter error'.

    Tim
     
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    Me, too. I have been getting low range hand loaded ammo
    stopping the slide with spent cases laying on top of the
    new round trying to move up the feed ramp. I have been
    slowly increasing the charge to get to minimum charge for
    reliable operation. Fortunately this pistol is for competition
    only. The Glocks I do rely on for PP, run with the fabled
    Perfection...This one not so much. I got this one from a
    police supply distributor...I pity the officer that would have
    gotten this one.

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    You're not holding it right, Glocks are the new high point, youMre mean't to hold it homeboy style, brass will all kick left or right for you depending on what hand you use to shoot... Problem solved!
     
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    Tim,

    With all due respect to Glock, and to you, I would tell
    them to pound sand. I have been shooting pistols,
    in one capacity or another, since 1972. I started with
    a GI 1911, if you get my drift. I have an array of pistols,
    some tiny, some plastic, and some very storied. I am
    an NRA Pistol Instructor, and I shoot at least 1k-3k rounds
    a month. But neither you or Glock would know that, so
    I would tolerate that kind of reply initially. I would appraise
    them of the fact that they get a few tries to
    fix my issue, but then I will divest myself of my Glock
    collection, and use the funds for their competitor's
    pistols(no shortage of good choices today), and relate
    my experience to all that ask...I talk to a lot of new
    shooters as an NRA Instructor. :supergrin:

    At this point, I am confident Glock will get this one to
    "Perfection", too. :upeyes:

    Thanks for the tip on the ejector. I will mention that to
    the GSSF armorer when I sit at his table.

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    So you are telling me I got the Gangsta Model! Makes
    sense. I asked for the Police model, from a distributor
    in the Chicago area. I guess someone must have
    switched orders and mine ended up on the south side,
    and I got theirs... :faint:

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    Just see Warren (I assume he'll be the armorer) at Oakdale this weekend. He should have all the latest/greatest.

    As stated above, you're looking for 0-2-4 as read left, right, bottom. I don't have the part number handy for the updated 9mm ejector, but Warren will have some.

    It will have 30274 stamped on it. It will have a blunt end compared with the original ejector.
     
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    Hope this helps I know it's already been stated but here's the official chart(Updated RSAs).
     

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    New ejector (30274, 30275 trigger housing) did wonders for my G26! If you have the old 336 I would recommend the upgrade.


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    I just sent 300 rounds down range yesterday with my G26 SXGxxx with a 336 ejector and did not have any issues what so ever. Mostly rapid fire. Fire 6, load 6, and fire (CCW stuff). I do recall being hit on the top of the head once, but I have no way of knowing if that was from me or the guy 3 feet to my left. No BTF or any other issues. My 26 has close to 500 rounds through with no problems at all. I was and have always used Blazer & Remington 115 grain FMJ with this particular gun.

    Oddly enough, there was a lady running a Sig 9mm (sorry not sure which model) who was using WWB and was having a hell of a time getting the gun to cycle. She had several type 1 malfunctions and a type 3 malfunction. Our instructor stopped the class and showed us what it looked like. $hxtty ammo was the cause. She changed to something else and the gun ran fine.

    So I guess my question for you is, what were your problems and when did they start occurring? I would have to say my gun is now broken in? FWIW, my G19 has the same ejector.
    Scott
     
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    While it might be another thread, my guess is that it would be a great thread and a very popular thread, although probably a substantial level of drama. I for one would love to hear what it is like to work there and what were your observations. But that might just be me...
     
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    Considering the excerpts I read in the last issue of combat tactics from glocks book, I would be interested as well.