G.I. 1911 holsters?

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  1. emt1581

    emt1581 Curious Member

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    Aside from the leather flap holster, did the military ever issue any other holster for the 1911 to it's troops?

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    I have seen shoulder holsters with U.S. military markings.

    Who they were issued to is beyond my scant knowledge.
     

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    The BDU belt holster was the normal issue and the "shoulder" version was usually issued to Tank crews and guys who operated vehicles for their normal duties.
    Of course you could find the shoulder version on guys in the field because it fit what they were carying and wearing.
    I always liked the shoulder holster cause it kept the waiste area clear for other more important stuff.
     
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  4. Sam Spade

    Sam Spade Staff Member Lifetime Member

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    There wasn't "the" flap holster, there were two.

    Remember that the 1911 was a cavalry weapon. Original issue had a flap holster with a swivel for mounted use. Came out right after the pistol did. 1912.

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    There was also a "tanker holster". Not really a shoulder holster, it carried the pistol on the chest. Pilots and tankers were the main consumers.

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    And while the Bianchi UM84 wasn't designed for the 1911, it got used that way while the M9 was coming on-line.
     
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    Sorry to disagree about the UM84, but it was for sale to civilians for, among other handguns, the 1911 "before" the military issued it.
     
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    But was there any canvas holsters issued?

    Thanks for the replies!:)

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  9. Sam Spade

    Sam Spade Staff Member Lifetime Member

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    The "U" stands for "Universal", but the Army bought it for the M9. Without the Beretta coming into service, it wouldn't have been fielded. You're right about the civilian angle, but I was just looking to the "army issue" side of the OP. Side note: Bianchi designed that thing from the ground up with their own money and without a .mil contract waiting for them. See, while there were pistol trials in the works, there wasn't any RFP for support gear. Bianchi designed a holster that would have fit any winner of the trials, then went calling after the M9 was announced. Pretty big business gamble and forward thinking, but it paid off.

    The US did not issue canvas. The Brits did.
     
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    Seem to remember he bought company with the technology to build ballistic nylon items as part of his efforts. Man, is this going back in the memory banks or what?
     
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    In addition to the standard "cavalry" flap holster (issued variously in brown, and later black) there were two .45 Gov't "shoulder holsters"...the M7 which was a two strap system (one over shoulder, one around chest) and a single strap system (diagonal across chest as shown in earlier post). Either might be issued to armor crewmen (pistol belt and holster is unwieldy in armored vehicles), or pilots, though the latter also had available a shoulder holster for the .38 Spl. Model 10 revolver (being preferable to pilots than an automatic). VN-style, it was also common for helicopter crewmen to obtain custom "locally made" holsters, usually "cowboy" style with bullet loops, etc. These were also available for .45 ACP.

    The issue shoulder holsters for .45 were also popular with field and general grade officers, depending on their "style".

    I served in two campaigns in VN in two cavalry units and have seen plenty of all types of issue and non-issue holsters.