[ScipioAfricanus]

If you believe in the theory* of very frangible & VERY VERY FAST projectiles, then Liberty claims to have the 9mm+P back in stock:

Civil Defense 9MM+P
Weight: 50gr
Velocity: 2000 FPS
Kinetic Energy: 450 FPE
$32.50
https://libertyammo.com/product/civil-defense-9mm/

I'm posting this because it's the first time I've seen ANYTHING in stock at Liberty going back MONTHS now.

*I know it's a very controversial theory, and differing situations call for differing approaches, but the point is that this ammunition appears to be actually available and actually for sale right now [whether you believe in the theory or not].

 

[ScipioAfricanus]

It also looks like they just got .357 Sig back in stock, as well:

Weight: 50 GR
Velocity: 2300 FPS
Kinetic Energy: 587 FPE
https://libertyammo.com/product/civil-defense-357-sig/

 

[cadillacguns]

Saw those last week at the Ft. Wayne Indiana Rural King
$35 a box of 20....ouch, but better than nothing if you have a new 9mm.

 

[jmohme]

If you believe in the theory* of very frangible & VERY VERY FAST projectiles, then Liberty claims to have the 9mm+P back in stock:

Civil Defense 9MM+P
Weight: 50gr
Velocity: 2000 FPS
Kinetic Energy: 450 FPE
$32.50
https://libertyammo.com/product/civil-defense-9mm/

I'm posting this because it's the first time I've seen ANYTHING in stock at Liberty going back MONTHS now.

*I know it's a very controversial theory, and differing situations call for differing approaches, but the point is that this ammunition appears to be actually available and actually for sale right now [whether you believe in the theory or not].


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I got some of those for my wifes carry. Very low recoil and the wife says they are good for a one shot kill of a chicken pen raiding raccoon!