Frozen shoulder, anybody ever deal with one?

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  1. Resqu2

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    So finally went to the ortho surgeon fully expecting a rotator cuff to be fubar. Complete loss of some movement in certain directions and don’t sleep good as any weight on the shoulder just hurts. He did all his things and announced that the rotator cuff was just fine and I have a frozen shoulder. Got to do PT for some weeks and if no range of motion improvement then we go to the OR and put you to sleep and make it move by force but no cutting. The risk of this is a broke arm! Ugh!!

    I was relieved at first hearing it wasn’t rotator related but now the more I read the worse it sounds and it can take up to 4 years to get better and a chance I will never get full range back.
     
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    G30SF/F-250 Pinky Out Platinum Member

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    Nope but I once froze my balls off....
     
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    Think I will keep my shoulder issue lol. I gotta ask, did you get prosthetic balls back or just an empty sack since you froze them off?
     
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    I had frozen right shoulder and yes PT really stands for Pain and Torture but I was completely recovered in a little more than 7 months but the therapist noticed that my left shoulder had atrophied. MRI showed that I had no rotator cuff so in for a replacement to go with two replaced knees. I do not recommend shoulder replacement. Good luck
     
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    Some exercises he has given me to do are impossible, it won’t go that way and when you try the pain is unbearable and feels like it will break or tear if forced. When I say the pain is unbearable I’m not a wimp, I pass kidney stones and don’t use pain meds but this is another world of hurt. I’m glad to hear that you did recover that quick.
     
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  6. Ramjet38

    Ramjet38 Mentally Frozen

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    Did you ever find them? :alex:
     
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    Quijibo King Doofus.

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    I get it from my wife every now and then.



    Seriously tho... 2 people at my work have had shoulder surgery in the last 6 months and a 3rd is getting it soon. My wife has had severe tendonitis for about a year. WTF is with all the shoulder issues?
     
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    I thought I had a bad rotator cuff but was told that I had a frozen shoulder. Dr. said he could break it loose or in time it would probably heal on it's own. I waited it out don't have any problems with it now. Maybe mine was not as severe as yours seems to be.
     
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    I'd like to know the definition of what a frozen shoulder is. I've have both shoulders repaired due to rotator cuff tears and it took every bit of a year with PT and not doing stupid things to get better. Additionally, it took one shoulder a Cortisone shot to calm it down.
     
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    I have full front movement and full strength but if I was put in an arm wrestling type movement and lost I would probably die on the spot, it won’t go that direction or picture being cuffed behind your back, nope that don’t work so I gotta stay out of trouble with the police for a while.
     
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    It’s officially called adhesive encapsulates, you would have to google it for a good definition. It usually happens to a diabetic or a woman. I don’t fit the profile except I tore my Labrum 6 years ago, did PT for it instead of surgery and that may be a factor.
     
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    I had torn rotator, cartlidge and frozen shoulder. I was in therapy that afternoon after surgery and they windmilled my arm several times. Of course, I couldn’t feel a thing, but the therapist said he just lit up a bunch of nerve endings and I better get ahead of it with the painkillers. 3:30 the next morning that block wore off and it was some serious pain. Therapy was rough for about three months but I’m good now.
     
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    Glad I went to the Dr when I did. I first messed my up about a year an a half ago. I was hurrying to get of the range because it was closing time. I was looking at my target and tripped. My shoulder would hurt but it would come and go. This past Memorial day weekend I was jumping off a 5 ft ledge and slipped due to loose rocks. I heard two or three pops and it hurt really bad. FYI, I am a wimp with a low tolerance to pain. By the next morning I had very limited range of motion. Went to Sports Medicine doctor, on Tuesday, he injected cortisone and lidocaine. Luckily PT at home has kept it from freezing up. Good luck!
     
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    I have had it in each shoulder. The first time it took 2 years to get back to normal. Could not move my left arm more that a little without crazy pain. Finally went away and I got full range of motion back. I was around 45 or so. About two years ago I hurt my right shoulder at 52. Went to the shoulder doctor who gave me a choice of surgery to break it free or to wait it out. Went to PT which helped with the range of motion but not with the pain. Finally started to do deep tissue massages into my shoulder and the pain got much better and finally went away. Almost back to normal. I am very careful how I lift things over my shoulder because I never want that to happen again. Shoulder pain is really bad. If you never had frozen shoulder you cant understand how strange it is. Try massaging your shoulder into the socket. Helped me.


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    NOW you tell me! Total left shoulder replacement in 2015. Was going fine, PT for a couple of months, then ropes/pulley at home. At 8 months it swelled up like a tennis ball! It had somehow become infected! Took 4 more surgeries over 2 months to get it under control. Had to see an infectious disease specialist! Now I have to take antibiotics for the rest of my life! Are you kidding me?! It’s been hurting ever since. I had good range, just couldn’t ‘use’ it. Lifting a gallon of milk, I’d be crying next morning. So I adapted by using my right arm for lifting. Of course, now it’s starting to really hurt after 3 years of this.

    I will soon get some pictures of it, just to document it and to see the extent of the damage. I’m worried that I’ll soon lose the use of both. Worker’s comp paid for 2 back surgeries and the left shoulder replacement. Both are worse off than before the surgeries. Reality has slapped me upside the head the last few months. My injuries are from 42 years of hard, physical work. I can only tell you to make any surgeries the last resort. Good luck!
     
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  16. Jonesee

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    Yes.
    Wall walks with your fingers as high as you can and back down: Repeat several repetitions.

    Then do it several times a day.

    Pain in the butt, and there will be pain. Don't be a wuss about the pain.
    Do it rather than being put under and pay a surgeon to yank it straight up and free it.

    Now my rotator is completely severed. I can't raise my arm up to the side no matter what. No pain. Just nothing left attached to raise it higher than about 1/3 way.
     
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    Actually I have had it twice several years apart. I had many sessions with an acupuncturist (chinese trained, not the homespun variety that just fools around) and was augmented by massage from my wife who is a trained massage therapist (holistic kind, not the buff and fluff type). Acupuncture was a breeze but the massage hurt like crazy. She has the bony fingers of death. Whatever treatment you get, I hope you get better.
     
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    I had a pretty bad shoulder dislocation which led to the joint being immobilized for about a month. When my arm came out of the sling, I had very little mobility. Took about a month of serious PT to get back to 100%. I was 32 at the time.
     
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    I played baseball to the college level... i have a shoulder that is made of rocks and garbage. The ironic part is that it is NOT my throwing arm, that one is fine. My left shoulder that has led a sheltered and easy life is the one that has self destructed. Hopeful it is just a rotator cuff.

    Good luck and get on that PT!
     
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    I fubar both my shoulders in soccer from throw ins, around age 49 I think. Going toward age 50 is about the time the body says you ain't a kid anymore, maybe.

    Anyway, first it was one game night, not bad during game but felt something maybe not right. Came home, went to sleep, woke up in middle of night with horrible pain. Ibuprofened a few days, didn't move shoulder, was resting it. Frozen for a couple weeks, then somehow better. Mystery. Full range of motion returned quickly, went back to taking throw ins.

    Then a month later, similar thing happened to the other shoulder, only worse. Soccer season ended around the same time, shoulder stayed frozen for a couple months. Winter came, I went cross-country skiing. I'm good at both soccer and skiing, so having a frozen shoulder didn't stop me. I held both poles, but was I was one-arming it.

    Then during skiing, I guess I was inadvertantly trying to use the arm a little, without even trying to, and it suddenly unfroze. Gave me about 75% range of motion, which I was glad to have.

    Over the next couple years. I'd like to say 1 year, but it was definitely 2. The range of motion slowly increased. I stopped playing competitive soccer, stopped doing throw ins, and just coached. But Each day, I'd try to move my arm more. Like in the shower, I'd try to reach the shower head. Eventually, try to reach above it. I made a point of trying that under the hot water.

    During those couple years of recovery, other than the days immediately after each injury, there was no pain. Possibly pain for a week or so, but once shoulder is frozen no pain. Unless trying to move it. Not moving the shoulder freezes it. Pain says to not try to move it. But eventually when it starts to unfreeze there isn't much pain. There is a fear of pain, and a strange feeling, and the physical resistance to movement.

    But the self therapy of moving the arm each day is more a creepy scary feeling than pain. Maybe if moving too much, too soon, it would be pain. During that time, while not competing, I still backyard played with my son. Soccer was easy, but he also wanted some football and baseball. I was very careful in throwing, not over doing it as I was rehabbing.

    I didn't use a doctor or therapist for any of this. Not even an evaluation or opinion. Because I'm the kind of guy who tries to stay healthy by avoiding doctors and sick places :)

    Anyway, both shoulders are pretty much 100% now. Maybe 98% and 95% if comparing to my younger self.

    I have a pain free body. Survived a knee injury from a horse wipe out in my twenties. That healed in about a month, and never issues ever since with it from soccer or skiing or 5ks.

    I did have my achiles flare up from track sprints racing after my shoulders heeled. While I had stopped competitve soccer, I was trying to compete in the over 50 age group for the 100m and 200m. Too much stress on my heels, so I stopped that. An easy pace 5k was ok, but otherwise done with competitive running. I've since healed up on my heels (no pun). No pain now, not even while running while coaching soccer. Not that I run much, show a few moves, then stand with my hands on my hips and watch the 14 yr olds do it.

    That's my story. I know everone is different. But there it is.
     
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