That's the question. Do I absolutely need Java on my computer? I update Java regularly and I surf safely on the web. I don't look at porn. I verify with things like Firefox's Web of Trust and McAfee's site adviser and such. I don't click on pop up and I use the web of trust thing that blocks popups and asks me if they think something is fishy. But it seems from time to time, I catch something and every single time the root of the problem seems to be Java. I run a firewall. Update my definitions constantly. Do full scans every few days and run Spybot Search and Destroy about twice a week. None of the anti virus stuff seems to stop this stuff initially. It's always after I run a scan. And the root is always Java. Not Norton, which I had first for a while. Not McAfee. But I dumped them too. And not Microsoft Security Essentials. McAfee wouldn't even catch these bugs in a full scan (in Safe Mode as well). Microsoft SE caught a couple when I did an initial scan with them, after I dumped McAfee two weeks ago.