Hi Mas, In a recent response you said this: "LVMPD, CHicago PD,Jacksonville (FL), and NYPD (early Transit and Housing Authority elements) were not happy with 147 subsonic, went to 1124 +P Gold Dot, and reported much better results from their 9mms." I'm assuming that those depts. were not using modern 147s like HST? Have you ever heard of any dept. having dissatisfaction with the 147 HST?