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Discussion in 'GSSF' started by Restless28, Feb 20, 2010.
What are your opinions on the FN FAL clones? Cetme?
DSA is the only FNFAL I'd consider. As for the CETME I get a PTR-91. DON'T a CAI or CIA rifle.
A cetme is not an FAL clone. It's another .308 rifle.
There are two FAL clones that are worth anything. The best is a DSA (either SA58 or STG58 or some variant thereof). The other is Entreprise rifles built on Imbel receivers. There are also many very good small business FAL-smiths that are better than either company. Avoid Century.
There are a few Cetme/HK G3 rifles out there. The best is obviously a real HK91, but PTR-91 is usually held in high regards. I hear good things about Vector, too. Stay away from Hesse or any associated companies, and Century (CAI, CIA or whatever they stamp on their guns now).
I own a DSA SA58 and really like it.
A friend has a cetme and loves it as long as he shoots military ammo. He has shot a few wal mart rounds and had to have the broken shell removed twice.
Can not comment on the fal as DSA is the only one I have experience with and it runs great.
DSA and Entreprise make excellent rifles. The original FN-made FALs imported by Browning are artistry in steel. Factory-made FALs were imported by Steyr, GunSouth, Armscorp & SAC (Argentina), Springfield Armory (Brazil) and some smaller companies. But don't discount rifles built up on kits. There are Century FALs with many thousands of rounds without issues, and I have a rifle built on a Hesse receiver with well over 10,000 trouble-free rounds.
If it's not a name-brand, insist on a shooting test before buying. You are looking for not just proper function, but also inspect the fired brass for excessive headspace or unusual marks. A normal FAL will dent the brass as it ejects it. One dent in the side is not a problem. Look for flattened primers, torn rims, and lengthwise scratches on the brass.
Barrel changes on a FAL are a PITA, so make sure it has a good bore. Aside from that, parts are cheap, and readily available. All your questions can be best answered by experts at FALFiles.com.
DSarms is the only FAL I would buy. I have one and it was well worth the big price tag! With FALs you get what you pay for, so buy a FN, or buy a DSA. They rock!
I own four FALs. One is a German G1 built on a DSA lower.
Another is a DSA SA58,
an Imbel on an Imbel GL logo receiver,
and a Lithgow L1A1-F1 (PNG copy) built on a DSA inch receiver.
I also own a PTR-91KP.
I really like my FALs. The G1 is a blast to shoot. The DSA is solid as a rock. The Imbel is a fantastic shooter. Really smooth. The L1A1 is a solid, beautiful, and very accurate. The PTR is not even in the same class as the FAL. It is, however, a very solid and robust weapon to shoot. The roller action is extremely durable, but you also have your share of recoil.
I'd forgotten about SA / Imbel. I wished I could find one of those guns.
I remember that first FN made FAL I had ever seen. It was at Aero Marine in Birmingham AL about in 1981. It was a beauitful gun with a walnut stock. If I remember right it sold for about $600.00 in 1981. A Colt Python NIB sold for about $400.00 and a S&W 686 was about $275.00 in 1981 dollars. I was a senior in high and looking for a job. So I couldn't afford to look, to let a lone buy a FAL. I had read too much Pistolero magazine. Lordy, that was a magazine.