FMJ for self defense - IF NEEDED

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  1. SamP250

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    So, the shelves are getting cleaned out quickly these days at sporting good stores and gun shops.

    I have practice ammo. 9mm, .40 cal, .38 special.

    I found a box of 150 Winchester 115 grain, brass jacketed/lead core. Steel shell casing, it says. In other words, practice ammo, right?

    Yes, I do have some hollow point rounds. Not many. But I'm trying to figure out if I need to make a mad dash to the ammo section tomorrow, at Cabelas or wherever.

    If 9mm is all sold out, as well as .40 cal, then I can pop the 357 Sig barrel in my G22 or G23, and will likely be able to find 357 Sig defense ammo, since it's not as popular, I'm hoping anyway.

    I know that practice ammo is likely to pass all the way through. It can possibly hit an unintended target or person. It will leave a small wound channel - nothing like a hollow point or other good defense round. But still, it will do some damage. If push comes to shove, and practice ammo is all someone has, then that's all they have, right? What are some possible consequences, other than pass through to an unintended target?
     
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  2. bac1023

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    JHP ammo generally expends all its energy into the target. Target ammo typically causes a lot less damage and, if it passes through, is only expending a fraction of its energy into the target.
     
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    DocCasualty Wolverine

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    Armies all over the world use it. Better than a sharp stick.
     
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    It will work. But you should still be able to find defenses ammo at a reasonable price.
    Another reason to stock up (200-500rds) on defense ammo before SHTF
     
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    If you have to go with an FMJ try to find some with a flat point with as big of a metpla as possible. For revolver rounds you can go with a wadcutter or SWC. I'll load my own cast bullets with a good sized metplat before I use FMJ.

    For 9x19 I would stay away from 115gr fmj for any defense use.
     
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    It is more effective than throwing an empty gun at him.
     
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    Full Metal Jacket has slain MILLIONS of people on this ball of dirt for over 100 years.

    Good enough for the military's of this world.... good enough for backup ammo.
     
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    Goldstar225 NRA Life member

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    If it's what you have, that's what you use. I have less 9mm hollowpoints on hand than I thought but plenty of 40 JHP. After the panic passes I'll correct that.
     
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    I’ve seen a lot of dead people that will tell you that target ammo works great
     
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    Just imagine you live in New Jersey and FMJ is all you're allowed.
     
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    If you are gonna ask the bad guy to wait till you load your self defense rounds because your firearm currently has ball ammo loaded, your crazy. If thats all you have to defend you and your family use it.
     
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    Leave now, get in line. Every time I shoot somebody with FMJ they turn and laugh.
     
  13. SamP250

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    No man, I'm crazy. My plan is to explain all this **** to the "bad guy," and ask him to cut me a break since all I have in my 33 rd mag is FMJ rounds. I'm sure he'll understand. Don't you think?
     
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    So you shoot them in the ass or the back, and they turn and laugh. Do they say anything intelligent, or just laugh?
     
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    Not as good as a quality JHP, but it’s still a bullet. They won’t like getting shot with it. At least you won’t have to worry about under penetration.

    You defend yourself with the ammo you have, not the ammo you want.
     
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    Jersey ****. San Antonio is the 7th biggest city in the nation, and we have Mexican Drug Cartel shootings all the time, not to mention the normal crime. They bring in automatic weapons using tunnels at the border.
     
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    Doh ?
    Energy has little to do with wounding, at least in pistol ammunition. Not just my opinion, but of those in technical branches of LE and of the ammunition designers who supply LE agencies (specifically those who designed the Gold Dot and HST).

    In pistol ammunition, it pretty much comes down to permanent (crush) wound cavity and penetration, and energy has a minor role in these factors.

    But I will certainly agree that "range" ammunition (FMJ, RN, etc), is generally not very effective in stopping a threat quickly, because of the minimal crush cavity; of course with the understanding that "pistol calibers" are marginal in stopping a threat before harm can come to the defender.
     
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    .45 in 230 Grain FMJ. It's been putting some very tough people down for over one hundred years.
     
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    That is simply not true.
     
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  20. kahrcarrier

    kahrcarrier FAHRENHEIT

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    Any ammo that fires is better than an empty gun if you are being attacked. Certainly wouldn't be my first pick, but a magazine full of FMJ or a cylinder stoked with lead round nose would certainly defend you if called upon.