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flying w/ guns

Discussion in 'GSSF' started by driver8m3, Nov 26, 2003.

  1. driver8m3

    driver8m3

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    i've never had to fly to a match...i always drive. what's the typical procedure for getting guns on an airplane?

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  2. Streck-Fu

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    You'll need a lockable hardcase. I don't think the ammo can fly in the same container but you'll have to check with the airline you are using as the rules are slightly different between airlines. You will have to declare the weapon at the ticket counter and be ready for a simple inspection. They'll want to make sure it's not loaded.

    Granted the last time I flew wa pre 9/11, but it was easy.

    ;Y
     

  3. Don At PC

    Don At PC Senior Member Millennium Member

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    As I understand it the rules vary quite a bit between airlines. I will be flying my first time with guns to the Las Vegas match. I will be flying on Continental and per their rules the guns must be in a hard case that is lockable. You must show them when you declare them that they are not loaded. As I read their rules ammo can be in the same comtainer but must be in either the original factory boxes or in a fiber or plastic padded box so as not to rattle. You can transport up to 5 hand guns and no more than 11 pounds of hand gun ammo. We are looking to put our guns in a hard case, locked and place the locked hard case in another lockable suite case and the insert of our gun bag will be packed on either side of the hard case with empty mags and boxed ammo.

    Hope this helps a little as I am new to this myself. I also recommend to check with the airline you will be using to see their written rules and would advice carring a copy of their rules with you just in case you meet an inspector who is either new or a dunce.
     
  4. goblue

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    Here is my experience on Northwest:

    out of MSP last week- Go to the check in counter and say "I am checking in for my flight to XYZ and I have an unloaded firearm to declare". They will get you checked into the flight and give you a tag to stick on your bag. After printing out your luggage tag and boarding pass, they took me to TSA and the TSA hand checked my bag, asked that I lock the pistol case and asked that I lock the suitcase. They put a sticker on the bag saying that it was inspected. I had no ammo for this flight.

    out of DFW last week- Same line to check-in agent. I had about 3 WWB value packs in the same bag as the gun, not in a locked case. Guy asked if the gun was unloaded. I said yes. He stuck a luggage tag on the bag, asked that I lock the bag, and he sent the bag on its way. No TSA check.

    Easy
     
  5. Custom Glock Racing

    Custom Glock Racing I did it first. Millennium Member

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    It is very simple; I fly with guns about 50 times a year. Some airlines are very gun friendly while others make it more of a pain.

    The Basics.

    Guns must be declared and unloaded in a locked hardcase. I advise putting that hardcase inside of another bag. You will most likely have to show them that it is empty (magwell and chamber). They will give you a firearms tag that goes in the box with your gun. That’s it. Do not let them put anything identifying a firearm on the outside of your bag, it is illegal.

    Ammo varies between each airline and individual employee. General rule is 11 pounds max (300 rounds in most cases) and must be in factory style containers. Manufacturers box, Dillon boxes etc. Tape them all closed with good tape, otherwise they usually open up and spill ammo everywhere.

    Ammo can now be in the same bag and same case as the gun (new reg.).

    Multiple guns. Varies between airlines. Delta charges a $75 extra bag fee for a 3rd gun. Southwest doesn’t seem to care how many you have. Check with your airline.

    Since we are now safe in airports (Ha!) your bags will be x-rayed by TSA. Some airlines/airports give you something to show TSA that you declared the gun others don’t. If asked just tell them that you declared it and don’t walk away until you see your bag cleared and on the belt.

    WARNING: Some places like to put a firearms ID tag (the one used at declaration) on the outside of your bag to notify TSA. This is technically illegal (as I read the law). They say it is just until it goes through X-ray but I have seen them stay on the outside of a bag the entire trip (inviting theft). I will cause a big scene to make sure nothing goes on the outside of my bag. I told a Southwest Manager and a TSA Sgt. that they were felons a few months when they tried to tag the outside of my bag. Use you own judgment if the situation arises.

    Once in awhile you will get an airline employee or a TSA person that does not know the regs. Do your homework. Read and have a copy of your airlines firearms regs and the TSA regs just in case.

    Also check with your airlines on bag and weight limits. Southwest is 3 bags up to 70 lbs each. United is 2 bags up to 50 lbs each. You can easily get blindsided with extra fees, do your homework.

    Once you do it a few times its really no biggy.

    Southwest Firearms Policy: http://www.southwest.com/travel_center/guns.html

    TSA regs:
    http://www.tsa.gov/public/display?content=0900051980069fcc
     
  6. MarkP

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    what do you guys do about your range bags?

    Mine is the dillon version and non-securable [just zippers] - do you travelers do anything special with them?
     
  7. Custom Glock Racing

    Custom Glock Racing I did it first. Millennium Member

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    Mark, I put my hard case in my range bag (green mtn) and my range bag inside a large dufflebag.