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Discussion in 'Carry Issues' started by GeorgiaGlocker, Mar 3, 2017.
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We need a new set of judges in this country. Judges that understand what "shall not be infringed" means!
Don't forget about the "well regulated" part.
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
§311. Militia: composition and classes
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
The state, government whatever you want to call it is allowed to "regulate" the militia. Denying open carry and allowing concealed carry does not deny the right to bear arms. The government is regulating the method in which arms are carried. The court was correct in their ruling.
Why the framers chose to word the second amendment the way they did we'll never really know. I think it is poorly worded. Placing "regulated" and "shall not be infringed" in the same sentence is almost an oxymoron.
I don't think we'll ever see open carry in the state of Florida. Too many liberal tourism dollars at stake.
Too many old liberals from up north live in Florida, and they bring that yankee trash mentality with them, vote for the same things that drove them out of the Northeast.
I know - Florida almost did not get "shall issue" however recently it was when they voted it in.
Yes I was plagued with New Yorkers as neighbors for a few years. They finally got fed up with our southern traditions and moved to Az.
To the dissatisfaction of the park deputies I open carry every weekend while fishing
"shall issue " was voted in by the legislature 30 years ago, not exactly "recent".....
Open carry is coming.
Regulated at the time, I am lead to believe, meant functioning.
Next thing someone is going to tell me is that just like the Northeast there is only one statewide Democratic office holder in Florida.
No, but there is ONE Democrat office holder who is hanging the whole thing up and preventing the measure from moving forward...
Thing with FL is, the folks who are surrounded by Libs because they live in Palm Beach/Broward/Dade think think the whole state is like that, but it's not.....
Anitere Flores seems to be potential roadblock or was a few weeks ago.
NO, NO, tell me it isn't so! We are already getting surrounded by the influx from California!
LOL, my last assignment before I retired was in NYC so I moved directly from there to AZ. Don't consider myself to be a New Yorker though ... even though my team there told me I had my "New Yorker card" because of the way I adapted, except speech accent.
Like what? Cold weather?
I'm with you on the tourism angle.
I agree with Poet! Constitutional Scholars have already agreed that in the language of the time it did not mean to regulate via regulation. It meant something to the effect of well equipped and readily functioning.
Its not a oxymoron, in the language of the time.
I do not say this as a proponent of OC, I am not a proponent. I certainly support more liberty as opposed to less but I simply cannot fathom why a person would OC as a practical SD initiative.
I would have liked to have seen them move next door to another misplaced northerner at 1XX th. Way Apache Junction
I open carry when driving long distances (e.g. Ft Sam to Ft Huachuca). Lucky for me all three states allow it, but I normally go OWB when driving around town.