my son turns 6 in february and is dying to kill a deer this or next season. he's small, but has more determination than necessary. i don't remember exactly how old i was when i started deer hunting - probably 8 or 10 or so - and hunted for a couple years with a single shot 410. after killing a few with it, my dad let me use his 30-30. i still have the 410, but i'm thinking it may be a little much for him. my dad sold his 243 last year and i don't own a 223. i've toyed with the idea of purchasing one of the two or maybe just letting him shoot the 410. he's been clocking hours in the woods with me, but if he gets too ansey to let his body get some size on it, what would be the best all around starter gun for him? he can drill turtles with his 22 for what its worth.