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First time out with G20: Wow

Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by spear85, Feb 28, 2010.

  1. spear85

    spear85

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    Finally said the heck with waiting for snow to melt anymore. Headed off to the range with my XD9, Kahr PM9 and the G20's maiden voyage. Ended up putting 25 rounds of remington umc 180 grain bullets thru the G20 and 100 rounds thru the 9's. Now i see why everyone states that you have to own one of these 10mm Glocks!

    I know everyone mentions it all depends on the particular load you shoot but i was expecting more recoil than that for sure. I was at wally world 2 nights ago and ended up disussing 10mm with the guy behind the counter and he mentioned that he owns a G20. SO i asked him how the recoil compares to say a .45. His response was "about twice the felt recoil of a .45"

    Haha, i fire the first shot and immediately i turned to my buddy and told him, dude this thing aint bad at all! So would a 200 grain bullet be WAY MORE recoil than those remington umc's?
     
  2. BigJoe13

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    My personal experience leades me to belive the Reminton UMC is loaded close to the .40S&W or FBI 10mm loading. That being very low felt recoil from the Remington ammunition.

    First time I shot a 10mm G20 was at a range in California and the Guy who did the reloades for the range, loaded to the original Norma specs. Standing in the next shooting stall over from the guy who owned the G20, I felt the concusive blast through the wall with the gun about 1.5 feet in front of me. After shooting 4 mags my hands tingled for an hour.
     

  3. hunt_ak

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    I run DT 200 grain WFNGC ammo in my G20 and it definitely hits the palm a little more. Not too bad, but noticeably more.

    Had a similar story when my brother bought the trapper model Marlin Guide Gun in .45-70. Neither one of use had fired one and the 'counter guy' asked us who we were going to get to shoot it for us since it recoiled so badly.

    First trip to the range, he let me go first and i was in a very aggressive stance, leaning into the bugger like it was going to flop me down....no biggie...counter guys are awesome sometimes...
     
  4. slims00ls1z28

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    Ya the guy at one of the local gun shops told me the same thing and I thought the same thing you did with my new G29.
     
  5. .45Super-Man

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    Look to Buffalo bore or Doubletap for true magnum level 10mm ammo. Winchester silvertip, while not loaded to what it once was is still warmish and a great defense load.
     
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    never shot the remington umc's, I imagine they're not to different than 40s&w powered loads....so no, I don't think you'd feel way more recoil. I've shot half a box of my 200gr DT's and they're not bad and nowhere near the recoil of the 135gr DT's
     
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  7. G33

    G33 Frisky! CLM Millennium Member

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    UMC is a nice mild load for the range.

    Enjoy the G20.
    :wavey:
     
  8. Gallium

    Gallium CLM

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    All else being constant, lighter bullet = more felt recoil.

    'Drew
     
  9. walker80

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    I just traded a Taurus Tracker 44 mag for a Glock 20. I really like the glock does anyone have the original norma load data?
     
  10. Glock26in

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    I bet shooting some hot loads out of the g29 would be fun lol!!
     
  11. cowboywannabe

    cowboywannabe you savvy?

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    unless you buy from Double Tap or Buffalo Bore, all else is a mid powered or LESS loading, especially from the "big three".
     
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  12. agtman

    agtman 10mm Spartiate

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    Remington's UMC 180gn ball load runs about 1150fps. It's better than other .40-level 180gn loads dribbling out of the muzzle @ 980fps, but still 100fps short of DT's "practice" load @ 1250fps. For that bullet-weight, the high-performance range is typically 1300-1350fps, so you've got a ways to go.

    While DT and BB produce the high-performance 10mm ammo, other makers offer one or two factory loads that most 10mm users have tried once or twice before settling on one (that's apart from reloading).

    Georgia Arms loads a 155gn Gold Dot load @ 1375fps, which I've found to be VERY accurate in both my S&W 10mms. CorBon offers a dual line of 10mm loads for personal defense and for hunting or backwoods use that are hotter than your average "Brokeback Mountain" fodder from the Big Three. Reed's Ammo also sells some potent 10mm loads.

    All are worth checking out to determine which maker's particular bullet-weight/style and power range suits your needs or purpose.

    :cool:
     
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    agtman 10mm Spartiate

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    Original Norma 10mm loads were:

    1) A 200gn TMJ-FP @ 1200fps/640fpe;

    2) A hard-edged 170gn JHP (called a "Power Cavity" :shocked: ), at an initial m.v. of 1400fps/740fpe, but dailed back in subsequent lots to 1300fps/638fpe.

    These set the velocity & energy standards against which all later 10mm loads have been measured, taking into account the particular bullet-weight used (i.e., 180gns @ 1300fps/675fpe; 135gns @ 1600fps/768fpe).

    :cool:
     
  14. Njanear

    Njanear Nagant-ophile

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    Remington factory .45/70 loads are easy on the shoulder... but when you step it up a notch, it will get your attention. :whistling:
     
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    Brian Lee Drop those nuts

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    To me, Double Tap's 135 grain Nosler hollow point feels like it has higher recoil than any other 10MM DT load - even the 200 grain Beartooth ones. Sure, the 135 grain bullet is lighter, but it launches with a lot more velocity, so its muzzle energy is actually greater than any of their other 10MM loads.
     
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    The store stocked 10mm isn't much over regular 40S&W and you will find most 40S&W ammo is watered down quite a bit from where it could be.

    My 10mm Load was given to me by Mike McNett from Double Tap.
    180 grain XTP
    New Starline Brass
    9.4 grains of LongShot He actually uses 9.5 to get his advertised 1350fps. I backed it down just to add a small margin of safety. At 9.5 you will see an occasional smiley.
    CCI-350 primer
    1.260" OAL

    This is my go to load for 10mm. It yeilds 1325 fps and 702fpe.

    It kicks less than my full house 40S&W carry ammo out of my G23. It's nice to shoot but the impact difference is very noticable. It takes a a few less shots to kill the same size tree when we are Glock logging.
     
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    tag for ref
     
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    Oh yeah, we fired some pretty decent Leverevolution ammo and were getting some pretty good results with accuracy in a fairly powerful round...
     
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    Dats da troof. :cool:
     
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    I have a few hand loads for the G20 10mm,
    180 gr. gold dot, blue dot powder, max book, ~1300fps
    200 gr TMJ/XTP AA #9 book max, ~1200fps?

    but by far the most impressive in muzzle blast is the 135 gr and hi-shok 800
    it surpasses the double tap vel., and has no equal in shock and awe wave. 1700fps IIRC, maybe 1800.

    I shot a couple rounds at a steel spinner, my buddy stopped me... and said here let me try, and watch the ground in front of it.... to which I did, and you could see a wave lifting up from the ground clutter at several feet from the muzzle, standing position shots mind you.

    He has stated a 10mm purchase is in the near future after that range session...:bowdown: