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First Glock, quick IDPA related question.

Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by Ozz, Dec 23, 2005.

  1. Ozz

    Ozz

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    Hi all.

    Bought a factory re-furbed G22 yesterday. This is my first Glock and I can't wait to get to the range. First thing I did was put in a factory extended mag release button. (I knew from shooting other Glocks I would want this mod). This is my new carry gun and I will be using it IDPA, which I became addicted to last summer. (Have been shooting a Beretta 96 Brigadier.) I am doing my first three gun match next month and can't wait.

    My question is this: If I file down the sharp corners off of the new mag release button will that bump the gun out of SSP?

    Any input is appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Ozz.
     
  2. Jim Watson

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    A real nitpicker might say that since that is not specifically allowed, then it is not allowed at all. In practice, if you make your bevels small and keep your mouth shut about it, it will never be noticed.
     

  3. Big_Jim

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    I dug out the rule book and this is the only thing that could cause you to be bumped into ESP. Pg 20, Excluded Modifications #1 says "Externally visable modifications other than sights and grips."

    However, I don't think anyone would notice or even care if you filed down the sharp edges on your mag release and I'm not sure the above mentioned rule would even apply. At your level (beginner) you have nothing to worry about. When you take first at the National Championships then you should probably use a stock mag release.
     
  4. Steve Koski

    Steve Koski Got Insurance? Millennium Member

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    I found that the exteded mag release that came with my G35 dug into my skin/hip when carried IWB. I put a normal one in and the problem went away.

    The odd thing is that my mag changes are just as positive with the shorter release. The long one "feels" easier to hit, but makes no practical difference to me.

    Koski
     
  5. Duck of Death

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    Anybody complains tell'em it's normal wear that made it smooth. The same wear that rounded my trigger guard so it's more comfortable to shoot.
     
  6. Big_Jim

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    I'll second that.
     
  7. Ozz

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    Thanks for the replies guys.

    For me,anyway, the longer button makes a difference in terms of not having to adjust my grip to drop the mag, so I do like extention. I am surprised that Glock makes the piece with such obviously sharp corners, but there's tradeoffs in everything, right?

    Anyway, I think I will just knock the corners off a little, nothing crazy.

    Thanks again.
     
  8. WildWest N AZ

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    You may want to also check out USPSA.org for rules on what you can do to the gun if you havent already.
     
  9. frankt

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    I have small hands and the standard mag button forces me to shift my grip. I put in an extended one after carefully knocking off the sharp corners. I can now drop the magazine without shifting my grip.

    I did not go crazy but just filed off the sharp ends and light ly buiffed. It looks like normal wear to me.
     
  10. Speedrock

    Speedrock "To The Point"

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    If you're shooting a local Club Match they shouldn't be nitpicking at all. Am left handed and have contourerd every mag release have ever used, even the std. ones as use one of the strong hand knuckles to release. No one has ever made a fuss even at the yearly regional sanctioned Match or two manage to shoot.
     
  11. hankfan79

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    It is my understanding that if you add any STOCK part to a Glock it is legal in the IDPA because any of the Glock products can be ordered from the FACTORY with extended levers. Thus making the weapon suitable for SSP or Production division. I own a G-19 with all extended lever and I asked the IDPA Director about the same issue. HE SAID "LEGAL"
     
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    Whoops, I read that question wrong...my bad..;z
     
  13. Bren

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    I did exactly the same to my wife's G34. Our match director put her in ESP class, but later decided she could shoot in SSP with it.
     
  14. Bogey

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    I have all standard releases on my 30, 21, and 17. All were slightly "sharp" around the edges, but have now worm in quite well.

    I don't see how anyone would be able to tell the difference if you just "hurried"" the process along. I know I wouldn't think to look see if you had filed it.
     
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    Speedrock "To The Point"

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    "but later decided she could shoot in SSP with it."

    Musta wised up and cracked the Little Green Book?
     
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    ;z Yep, mine too. I guess the skin on my fingers is kinda abrasive--like sandpaper even.
     
  17. Speedrock

    Speedrock "To The Point"

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    My bombast is that I'm so Anal that all Glock's get scrubbed with "Beech's Bore Shine" and a SS brush, even the frames so of course they're gonna be kinda smooth after ten or twenty scrubbins' ;f
     
  18. Bren

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    Actually, the book doesn't answer this question clearly. If I was going to answer it by the book, I would have to say it is an external modification that isn't permitted in SSP - but then you could apply some interpretation and say that filing a sharp edge off of a permitted mag release isn't what they meant by modification.
     
  19. MarkP

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    technically, that mod moves the gun to ESP.
    fwiw,
    M
     
  20. Speedrock

    Speedrock "To The Point"

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    My comment was tongue in cheek. When used to organize/run or be MD for local Club level IDPA Match's, the question always asked myself "was xxxxxx done to gain a competitive advantage, etc." That was as per the SO Instructor who gave a bunch of us the required SO Course, plus at the time we did have a Committee of Shooters, not necessarily So's either, that met to discuss stage submissions and rules to be strictly enforced and those that could be interpreted for the good and benefit of all. It even got to the point that we stuffed all the Hyper-competitive types in one Squad and the rest in another to include new shooters and new to the gun world shooters so they could be mentored if desired, etc. Noticed we were loosing a good number of new people because they didn't care for the bickering and "gotta beat ya" attitudes of some of the "Gamer" types. It did work and was enjoyable for those there for the fun a sportsmanship of the "game".

    But then again, may be why am no longer even SO'ing? However, no more Committee, no Stage submission's, only two guys running it and someone gets DQ'd almost every Match, etc., etc. etc......