Finishing an 80% lower
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I did one from EP Armory. I bought the polymer lower, jig and milling bits from EP. I used my drill press. Went slow, watched a YouTube on how to drill and mill it. Turned out okay, put a cheap PTAC upper on it and it shot fine. Kept it in the truck for awhile. My son claimed it and it's in his safe now. It was pretty easy and a good experience but I wouldn't do it again. Not since lowers are $40 at Aim Surplus which is just a couple miles from me.
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So you're saying you transferred a completed 80% lower?
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Is there something wrong with that?
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Any firearm you lawfully own, you can lawfully sell/xfer/gift, etc.
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Yes, you can't transfer them once completed unless they're serialized. And with that I believe you would need to be a licensed manufacturer.
You can manufacture a firearm for yourself, but you can't give or sell it to anyone else. Legally...
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This is incorrect, you have been mis-informed.
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Please inform me...
Not true. You can transfer one, but there are some limitations.
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Inform us of the source of your info?
Stop and apply the sniff test - what good does it do if Joe Sixkpack to add a random number to a 80% ? It is still just as untraceable as if he did not do it.
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Read more: https://www.ammoland.com/2014/11/atf-answers-questions-on-80-receiver-blanks/#ixzz57mDkN9NS
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12. Can anyone make firearms and sell them?
With certain exceptions, and subject to any state law that might apply, as long as an individual is not prohibited from possessing a firearm, he or she can make a firearm for personal use. If an individual wants to manufacture and sell firearms, he or she is required to obtain a license, and mark each firearm manufactured in accordance with 27 CFR 478.92. [18 U.S.C. 923(i), 26 U.S.C. 5822]
With that said you can't sell it, but the circumstance mentioned in the post above seems legal since it would be kind of a gift and wasn't manufactured and sold.
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12. Can anyone make firearms and sell them?
With certain exceptions, and subject to any state law that might apply, as long as an individual is not prohibited from possessing a firearm, he or she can make a firearm for personal use. If an individual wants to manufacture and sell firearms, he or she is required to obtain a license, and mark each firearm manufactured in accordance with 27 CFR 478.92. [18 U.S.C. 923(i), 26 U.S.C. 5822]
With that said you can't sell it, but the circumstance mentioned in the post above seems legal since it would be kind of a gift and wasn't manufactured and sold.
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He is not making and selling firearms. He made one and later gifted it to his son. No FFL required for that.
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As stated, his was for personal use, not to sell. No license required.
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/does-individual-need-license-make-firearm-personal-use
Does an individual need a license to make a firearm for personal use?
No, a license is not required to make a firearm solely for personal use. However, a license is required to manufacture firearms for sale or distribution. The law prohibits a person from assembling a non–sporting semiautomatic rifle or shotgun from 10 or more imported parts, as well as firearms that cannot be detected by metal detectors or x–ray machines. In addition, the making of an NFA firearm requires a tax payment and advance approval by ATF.
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/does-individual-need-license-make-firearm-personal-use
Does an individual need a license to make a firearm for personal use?
No, a license is not required to make a firearm solely for personal use. However, a license is required to manufacture firearms for sale or distribution. The law prohibits a person from assembling a non–sporting semiautomatic rifle or shotgun from 10 or more imported parts, as well as firearms that cannot be detected by metal detectors or x–ray machines. In addition, the making of an NFA firearm requires a tax payment and advance approval by ATF.
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Clearly this isn't correct
Yes, it appears that I was wrong about gifting, but not about selling.
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How so? What law prevents me from selling sell/xfer/gift I lawfully own?
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Didn't dispute that. I know I can make them all day long for myself. The only thing I was questioning was the transfer. Given the circumstances of his "transfer" it appears to be legal.
Personally I don't care either way.
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If an individual wants to manufacture and sell firearms, he or she is required to obtain a license, and mark each firearm manufactured in accordance with 27 CFR 478.92. [18 U.S.C. 923(i), 26 U.S.C. 5822]
You can't legally manufacture (complete an 80%) and sell it without a license.
However... You do what you want.
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The ATF says you can:
Q) A company acquires one receiver, assembles one firearm, and sells the firearm.
A) The company is not manufacturing firearms as a regular course of trade or business and is not engaged in the business of manufacturing firearms. This company does not need to be licensed as a manufacturer.
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