I've been a bit frustrated finding "the" load that my Gen 4 G17 would shoot well at 25 yards with my preferred bullet weight. I prefer 124 gr pills, and I just couldn't find a load that recoiled like I'd like and still shot adequately at distance. Powders I tried: Titegroup (average accuracy, soft) Bullseye WSF N320 Silouette AA#7 AA#5 AA#2 HP-38/W231 HS-6 Power Pistol (accurate, snappy, but too dang loud/flashy) and finally N340 4.8 grains, 124 gr PD JHP, .375 crimp, 1.085" OAL, CCI SP primer = 2.55" average of 2, 15 round groups at 25 yards from a rest. Clocked 1,055 fps avg. 4.8 grains, 124 gr MG JHP, .376 crimp, 1.085" OAL, Win SP primer = 1.5" average of 3-5 shot groups. 2.6" average of 2, 15 round groups at 25 yards from a rest. Clocked 1,105 fps avg. Just a heads up for those striving for better accuracy. It's expensive, but worth it to me since my standby loads didn't produce.