Family: FMPD officer didn't report girl out of car seat, child dies in crash a month later

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  1. PennsWoods

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    Disgusting to see that happening.

    Child services over lack of car seat?

    And felony charges for not calling them over a summary traffic violation?

    If thats what the brainless people want, they better enjoy zero officer discretion for every jot and tittle they have wrong with their vehicle, paperwork, windshield obstructions... the vehicle code is a very large book and it hurts when you get whacked with it.

    EDIT - Further articles show it wasnt a simple matter of a summary violation. The mother was in possession of drugs for the first traffic stop, and the officer is on video saying he didn't feel like calling child services. Keeping the original post up for transparency.
     
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  2. SKSman57

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    There is slightly more to the story.

    https://www.winknews.com/2020/06/10...officer-didnt-report-endangered-child-to-dcf/

    The retarded media is attempting to equate the crash with the officer's actions, when the two are completely separate and distinct events.

    This is still insane. It's a perfect example of how big government screws everything up. I would also note, you would do well to remember that prosecuting attorneys in urban centers are by and large activists, and on the Democrat party payroll. Many are directly funded by Soros. They are not your friend, and they salivate at the chance to hang you out to dry for their street cred.

    Most lawyers are scum, and most lawyers tend to be far-left activists. There is something about the "profession" that drives people in that direction.

    Many of my classmates from law school are now in prosecutorial positions, and I've found that power goes to their head.
     
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  3. Tomcat1977

    Tomcat1977 "Cynical Little me"

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  4. Bren

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    Good point. I looked it up and it looks to me like the Florida law applies to "any person" so she just confessed to the same felony he's charged with.

    Add to that, the friend and the girl's father admitted that they illegally recorded a conversation with Officer Williams, so that's 1 felony for Officer Williams, 1 for the father (and he just got out of jail and was turning his life around, too) and 2 for Kelly Schwartz.
     
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  5. Dragoon44

    Dragoon44 Unfair Facist Lifetime Member

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    True, she has no first hand knowledge of the incident and was just going on what the mother said.
     
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  7. FiremanMike

    FiremanMike Way too busy

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    Yeah ok.. drugs in the car, likely cracked out mom, no car seat.. made the statement that he just "didn't want to deal with CPS" (meaning he knew he should have and didn't).

    I'm not in the camp that he was just "cutting her a break" anymore..
     
  8. PennsWoods

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    Yes the original article failed to mention the lovely mother was found with drugs and a kid in the car and Williams actually stated himself that he wasn't going to call child services. That buries him because he indicated he knew it was necessarily and chose not to.

    I take back my less advised previous statements.
     
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  9. Dragoon44

    Dragoon44 Unfair Facist Lifetime Member

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    I can tell you this, in my day if some prosecutor tried pulling this B.S. Every city, county, and state cop would immediately take a keen interest in the prosecutors driving habits.
     
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  10. ranger1968

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    In Florida, it's DCF- Department of Children and Families-

    Yeah, He should have called them (and waited on the phone for the 45 minutes it takes them to get you off hold ) and spoken to one of their apathetic call takers, but he cut that corner, and it's costing him;

    Having said that, after nearly 30 years of dealing with DCF (which used to be called HRS) I can tell you that they would have done exactly NOTHING, either on the scene or later other than maybe a home visit, which would have resulted in more nothing;

    To link the kid's death, which is obviously tragic, to the traffic stop a month before, though, is beyond a stretch; The Mom owns this one, and to a certain extent, so does the father (who was in jail himself) for being dirtbags.....

    The cop , for lack of making a phone call ( which make no mistake, he should have, not for the car seat, but for the dope) will see more jail time than the mother in this......

    And that's total bull****.
     
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    Dragoon44 Unfair Facist Lifetime Member

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    Ours was, back in the 80's Florida had a fad on renaming streets in predominantly black sections of town to MLK Blvd.

    Ours was good for homicides,sexual assaults, domestic violence, bar fights and traffic fatalities usually involving D.U.I.
     
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    Dragoon44 Unfair Facist Lifetime Member

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    Yeah, the article I read didn't mention that. He is toast. And he deserves it if the reports true.
     
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    The mom is at fault, for sure.. And DCF probably would have done nothing like you said, but the law is pretty clear and very well communicated that as public officials, we are MANDATORY reporters, and this is by law at least in my state. If they choose to do nothing, that is on them..

    He could have made an attempt to advocate for that kid and didn't.

    Criminal charges for the death? Eh..

    Criminal charges for violating whatever statute makes him a mandatory reporter? Definitely.
     
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    MLK is also State Road 82 and is the conduit directly into downtown (which is pretty nice, the downtown) and like most , if not all MLK's, it's in the high crime area; just off MLK is where FMPD had their last officer shot and killed.
     
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    Dragoon44 Unfair Facist Lifetime Member

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    I detested DCF their personnel were worse than useless. And would simply refuse to act unless forced to.

    One case a juvenile with a lengthy criminal record did a home
    invasion on a 75 year old guy and beat him so badly he was in a coma.when I arrested him the DCF worker refused to come process him and instead tried to tell me to simply release him to his family. I called the State attorney who called DCF and demanded they take the kid into custody. Which they did.

    Another case, same DCF worker, repeatedly receives complaints from a teenage girl that her father is molesting her for years. She not only does nothing but insists the family remain together.

    Until the night mommy came home unexpectedly and caught daddy doing the deed.

    OH and the girl had an infant, guess who testing revealed the daddy to be?
     
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    Dragoon44 Unfair Facist Lifetime Member

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    Yeah, I did my best to stay the hell away from Fort Meyers.
     
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    Arizona CPS/DCS was/is no better when it comes to lazy caseworkers.
     
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    I just read the other story, it is so touching that the daddy is now dedicating his life to fighting for the baby. He is never going to stop. (Until he gets paid)

    He and his girlfriend both knew that mommy was a drug addict (like them) but never did anything to try and protect the baby before.
     
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    Of course not. Nobody is accountable for anything ...... except the police !!!!
     
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