Family: FMPD officer didn't report girl out of car seat, child dies in crash a month later

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  1. ranger1968

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    Wow...
     
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    "In February 2020, 3-year-old Serenity Robinson died after her mother, Leslie Zeagler, crashed her car near MLK Boulevard and Rockfill Road. Zeagler was high at the time of the crash, with meth, fentanyl, methadone, benzoylecgonine, diazepam, and nordiazepam in her system, according to her arrest report. Serenity was not in a car seat when her mother crashed her car."

    Sounds like the mother had a bit of culpability here...

    The officer cut the woman a break and unfortunately it came back to bite him. He should have to take his lumps, but the link text says he was arrested...which he wasn't. He'll probably get some unpaid time or something and then get back to it.
     
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    Dereliction of duty to be sure, but just because a cop fails to do his duty, stupid people automatically bear no responsibility whatsoever for failing to protect their own child? My guess is even if he had reported it, they would have failed to secure the child the next time anyway. But at least then the cop would be off the hook.
     
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    A few years ago there wasn't even a law re: child safety seats and adult seat belts. Now the gov't can take your child, arrest you, and arrest the LEO if the driver isn't in full compliance with each of these laws. There just seem to be so many laws covering so many parts of our lives these days that nobody can be in full compliance anymore. Also, I'm a big proponent of the use of seat belts and child safety seats, but what will be next? Will there be County Dental Inspectors visiting homes every night and arresting people that forgot to brush their teeth before bed?
     
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    Uh, actually, he WAS ARRESTED, and he's been charged with a felony....
     
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    " Dereliction of Duty" becuase he didn't call DCF and initiate a negelct case BECAUSE WHEN HE MADE A TRAFFIC STOP ON THE MOTHER MORE THAN A MONTH PRIOR TO THE FATAL CRASH THE KID WAS NOT IN A CAR SEAT!?

    That's beyond a stretch, that's malicious prosecution.
     
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    This is absurd, they are stretching a existing statute (duty to report child endangerment) to include a kid not in a car seat.

    They are trying to make the case that the kid not being in a car seat equals child endangerment/child abuse and thus the officer was required to report it to CYS.

    And the one making the claim? The "friend" of the mother who also happens to be shaking up with the daughters father?

    They smell money in them thar hills.
     
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    There must be a LOT more to this story.
    I’ve never heard of a requirement to contact DCF every time a child is not in a car seat or wearing a seat belt
    I can see him getting in trouble if he arrested the mother after the traffic stop, and did not call DCF about the child she had with her, but doing it for every minor without a seatbelt???
     
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    MLK Blvd sounds like a dangerous road.
     
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    Family is looking for a payday. Nothing more.
     
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    It is prosecutor overreach. They are trying to make the case that the child not being in a car seat equals child abuse/neglect which State law (at least when I worked in FL) would require to contact CYS and report.
     
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    I've written a lot of tickets for Unrestrained Child and never notified Child Protective Services. I even gave a couple of warnings. I hope the statute or limitations is up.

    That is ridiculous.
     
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    Completely ridiculous. They are going after cops like Dems going after Trump. Things they did and should take responsibility for, get blamed on the other person.

    The woman was high on a cocktail of drugs and the cop gets charged?
     
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    And since the "friend" knew about the incident, and she didn't report it to child protective services, will she be charged too ???
     
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    Exactly, a child not in a car seat or safety belt is a citation which does not require CYS being contacted.

    But instead ofthe chief fighting this ridiculous prosecutor over reach he is instead going along with it.
     
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    Dragoon44 Unfair Facist Lifetime Member

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    Sssshhhhh. Your not supposed to ask common sense questions like that!
     
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    Are we sure he even noticed?
    this is a disgusting over reach.
    and no its only normal to write the ticket , not report them for not buckling up the child,
    by the way this is exactly the policing BLM wants .
     
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    shes not a mandatory reported
     
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