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Falkland Islands - Round Two

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by airmotive, Feb 22, 2010.

  1. airmotive

    airmotive Tin Kicker

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    Taken from the pages of "some folks never learn"....it seems now that oil has been discovered near the British territory, Argentina (again) wants the islands back.

    http://www.edmontonjournal.com/opin...ng+over+Falkland+resources/2585140/story.html

    Wave of tension rising over Falkland resources
    Britain puts warships on standby

    By Damien McElroy, Daily TelegraphFebruary 19, 2010

    Royal Navy warships were on standby Thursday night to protect shipping to the Falkland Islands as Prime Minister Gordon Brown said Britain would take a robust stand against Argentine encroachment on the resource-rich South Atlantic territory.

    HMS York, a type 42-destroyer, was on a "tight leash" patrolling the seas around the islands in response to rising tensions over British companies' oil exploration near the Falklands. Argentina has demanded a halt to "illegal" oil drilling near the islands and on Wednesday imposed a permit system on ships passing from its ports to the Falklands.

    Brown issued an explicit warning to the Argentine government that the South Atlantic force -- which also included a 1,000-strong military detachment on land -- would respond to any disruption of the Falklands links to the outside world.

    "We maintain the security of the Falklands and there are routine patrols continuing," Brown said. "I think you will find that we have made all the preparations that are necessary to make sure the Falkland Islanders are properly protected."

    A statement from the Ministry of Defence said: "A deterrence force is maintained on the islands. That deterrence force comprises a wide range of land, air and maritime assets, which collectively maintain our defence posture."

    Navy commanders said the prospect of the Argentine disruption of shipping in the area was real.

    "This is modern defence diplomacy in action," an MoD official said. "The warships are there to protect the UK interests in the South Atlantic. If the Argentines were to interfere with the free movement of shipping on the high seas that would be illegal and we would make a decision to use our deterrence force.

    "At the end of the day if the Argentines decide to up the ante and the Foreign Office agreed that our interests were being challenged, we are there to stop that."

    Argentine officials have revived the country's claims to sovereignty over the Falklands to contest British claims on the potentially lucrative deep-sea oilfields within the islands' 200-mile economic zone.

    Jorge Taiana, Argentina's foreign minister, scheduled a meeting with Ban Ki-moon, the UN secretary-general, next week to discuss British failure to comply with resolutions calling for a "discussion" of sovereignty. "What they're doing is illegitimate," he said. "It's a violation of our sovereignty. We will do everything necessary to defend and preserve our rights."

    British diplomats have accused the Argentine government of posturing to gain a negotiating toehold on the future revenues from an oil find.
     
  2. MDLibertarian

    MDLibertarian NRA Life Member

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    It seems the Argentinian gov't didn't learn from their first encounter with the British. Let's hope Argentine wakes up soon so it doesn't come to history repeating itself.
     

  3. HexHead

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    When does the HMS Conqueror set sail again? :tongueout:
     
  4. Deputy206

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    JMO But seeing that we won our independence from Great Britain, Shouldn't other countries controlled by Britain be allowed to exercise their rights to freedom?

    Again this is just my opinion.
     
  5. airmotive

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    The Falkland Islanders are not wanting freedom from British rule.
    Argentina wants to take over the islands and rule them...especially now that oil has been found there.
     
  6. GlocknSpiehl

    GlocknSpiehl NRA Life Member

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    Let's see...the 1st Falklands war started because the Argentine govt was in trouble and needed to distract their people. The current Argentine govt is in trouble...

    What was that quote again about history repeating itself?

    They say they have a destroyer patrolling the sea lanes around the Falklands, but I betthe Brits have 2 - 4 nuc attack subs just hanging around their as well.
     
  7. Deputy206

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    My bad, I misread it.
     
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    Blitzer Cool Cat

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    their or there? :dunno:
     
  9. Natty

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    British Naval ships during the Falklands War 1982

    HMS Antelope

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    Last pic of the HMS Antelope

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    HMS Sheffield before it sank...

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    HMS Ardent before it sank...

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    Last pic of the HMS Coventry...

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    HMS Atlantic Conveyor before

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    After, well you know, before it sank...

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  11. MichiganJFrog

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    At least this time can WE have all the FAL's that are confiscated? :supergrin:
     
  12. Free Radical

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    The Argentines have never given up their claim on the Falklands, which they call the Malvinas. There is a fierce undercurrent in Argentine society which proclaims that the Malvinas are Argentine. It is not uncommon to see graffiti which says as much painted on underpasses and bridges throughout Argentina. All that said, I support the British sovereignty of the Falklands. The residents there are British. There is little or no no evidence of Argentine culture present. It would be a terrible mistake on the part of Argentina to think that the UK will ever retreat from their position.....even though it is a cold, windswept, godforsaken place. There is pride and patriotism at stake here.


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    Vegas has the Brits by 6 1/2.
     
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    Carrys Inquisitive

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    Cool pics.


    What's your point?
     
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    Just a fan of Naval battles.
     
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    I hope the British have learned from their first encounter with Argentina. That battle did not go all that smoothly for the British (see pictures above!).
     
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    Geeze, looking at all those British ships lost, one would think they lost the conflict! How many Argentine ships were lost?
     
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    I support Argentina. I doubt they would win a military engagement, but they have every right to claim back what is obviously part of their geography.

    There's nothing about the modern day UK government that needs to be shared abroad in my opinion.
     
  19. fnfalman

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    It's gonna be FAL versus SA80 Bullpup. The Brits are gonna get massacred.
     
  20. Glock20 10mm

    Glock20 10mm Use Linux!

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    There whole navy of 2!

























    Kidding... actually, the correct answer is:

    Argentina Casualties
    649 killed
    1,068 wounded
    11,313 taken prisoner
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    1 cruiser
    1 submarine
    4 cargo vessels
    2 patrol boats
    1 spy trawler
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    25 helicopters
    35 fighters
    2 bombers
    4 transports
    25 COIN aircraft
    9 armed trainers

    United Kingdom Casualties
    258 killed[5]
    777 wounded
    115 taken prisoner
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    2 destroyers
    2 frigates
    1 LSL landing ship
    1 LCU amphibious craft
    1 container ship
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    24 helicopters
    10 fighters