Tried to search by keywords but I didn't come across it. I'm researching defensive ammo, which brought me here, to podcasts, to parts of the internet, to some of my LE contacts, etc. Sometimes you see the post -- "Ammo xxx stinks. The quality control stinks. Look at these pics." Then people say "you're right that's why I use Ammo y". Or, "have you tried calling the manufacturer?" Or, "how long was that stuff in storage?" One question in my mind-- how can you tell if the ammo you buy at the local show or online is the real thing? Can you tell if it's counterfeit? There's a lot of fake products out there and I really want to make sure the supply line from the real manufacturer to my pistol is intact. I'm starting to wish I can order directly from manufacturers like Winchester, Speer, or Federal.