I got this buddy that I've been tight with for about 17 years. I told him after he bought this gun he got bent over pretty bad. Well last month something happened and he needed to get rid of the gun. "Hey Bubba I'll sell it to ya for what I got in it...$525" Me- "Man I love ya brother but it aint nowhere near worth that and I can't do anything right now anyways" him a week later-"How about $450?" me-"Can't do it bro...I got kids birthdays coming up and bills piled up" another week goes by and he calls-"$350 and its yours" me-"Can't do it. I'm not in the market and I got a 8 year old turning 9. My 14 year olds birthday is in a week and my daughter wants a $200 dress for a school formal" He calls me today and says if "Can you bring me $150 and you can take the gun and pay the other $200 in a few weeks?" me-"Yeah I'll do that...." Well went and got it...its a nice gun. Not too sure about the brand though. Sucker is tight and looks good. I'm gonna load up some 45acp with 200gr lswc over about 3.3gr of clays and go shoot a little and test it out.