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Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by Gombey, Oct 18, 2015.
I was reading the accounts of the return process on another forum and they report no drama.
The last attempt to return was a little earlier today. The individual officer was able to get a rep on the phone, the SN had been rubbed off due to use, and filled out the return authorisation. I'm guessing it's only a temporary thing. Maybe shutting down shop for the holidays or something.
I got approved for return and printed my authorization off this morning. The whole process took a few emails back and forth over the course of a few days.
I am mailing mine out tomorrow.
Looks iffy to me on a motor, might look darn out of place on my bicycle. I am lucky to get two water bottles, a forms holder, and a pair of handcuffs and leg irons.
The leg irons come I handy when there is not caged vehicle to set a drunk crazy in.
The set up would weigh more than the bike
I think I would JB Weld the handcuff key override closed on the Santa Cruz though on a motor!
Yeah the one in squad has a special key for the override not a handcuff key
My agency just disapproved the use of the Eotech thanks to the lawsuit so I submitted my return request on Monday and got the authorization today.
Now the only question is what optic to go to?
I bought my eotech in 2005 used it in one hot dirty environment after another until 2010. It definitely got at least that hot, still works today.
I'm getting a Trijicon MRO. Price is right! Almost half of an Aimpoint Micro and similar. 30% larger FOV as well.
You need to get rid of that cardboard crap and start running a piece of 1.5 inch PVC. That is what the REAL operators are using.
I have some problems with EOTech allowing police and military to pay good money for hit or miss equipment when lives are on the line.
"There's principalities involved." -Big Worm
If that is your concern I would get on it ASAP after Christmas and get it in before the new year.
Sounds like for now they are holding to their promise. I mailed my back this morning.
I won't lie, I loved my EOtech and was planning to keep it anyway, until I checked it out closely and discovered the nitrogen seal had purged.
For me the Trijicon reflex, Aimpoint Pro, or Aimpoint T1 were the only other options I considered.
I went with the Pro simply because I bought one years ago and had it sitting practically new in the box in a closet.
I never warmed up to it, but I think I will with a little practice.
I am still waiting to see if my agency is going to recall their issued EOtechs and/or DQ them for personal purchase. I haven't heard a peep about it from the SWAT supervisor or the brass.
You will.. I am sure.
Consider a bigger picture L3 is a very big company with Eotech being a very small part. It makes sense under those conditions to just settle and go on with business.
The agecy I worked for had hundreds of sights. Any problems I ever witnessed were noticed a zeroing a failure to zero (windage/elevation). Just because they settled doesn't necessarily equate to an admittance of guilt.
I have zero problem with folks jumping ship and wanting their money back. I am sure that was predetermined before they opted to settle. Nothing wrong with there. They won't be going belly up.
LOL... "Playing with my money is like playing with my emotions..." Kinda how I feel right now!
Thanks for the suggestions. At my agency ALL of the Eotechs have been pulled.
I've done lots of considering. L-3's profile is something I'm very familiar with. EOTech isn't as small a part as you think, by the numbers. Their DOD and GSA contracts alone contributed significantly to their bottom line. L-3 makes a lot of high end stuff that costs a lot more than an HWS, but volume is what makes the dollar.
The shifting zero is one of a number of issues, just with the HWS. Battery contact failures, sealant failures and a couple more are the common ones.
This is the beginning of the end for EOTech, if not L-3. The crap their executive group pulled, obfuscating, covering up, are the things executives have gone to prison for in the past.
We also have tons of sights here, on LL equipment in our jail, patrol, special units, and agency weapons along with many personal weapons.
After essentially decertifying EOTech HWS in our agency, I received calls from other departments in my state. I consulted for the Firearms section of one of the big three just yesterday and provided them with a lot of documentation and some guidance. They are in the process of pulling theirs. All of them.
That's over a thousand cops. Less lethal. SWAT, etc.
Think about this at a national level, with MSRP returns en masse. That money is coming from somewhere.