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Entitlement ......?

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by dango, Oct 14, 2012.

  1. certifiedfunds

    certifiedfunds Tewwowist

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    You just want us for our crawfish.

    Fair enough.
     
  2. DanaT

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    Do you believe that people, for example if they lose their job, should be able to file bankruptcy?
     

  3. G-19

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    I guess you wont be hiding money out of the country anymore. From what I read the bank is dropping you because you are not worth the hassle. The govt. did not make you close that account.
     
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  4. certifiedfunds

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    I was in China listening to a Chinese woman explaining the Chinese tax rates. Ours are remarkably similar.

    I walked away thinking, "If China is communist, so is the U.S."
     
  5. certifiedfunds

    certifiedfunds Tewwowist

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    If it's his money, what business is it of yours or anyone else's where he keeps it?

    What business is it of the government's?
     
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  6. DanaT

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    Well, as I have said, I have paid all taxes and complied with all IRS reporting requirements.

    I will just go to a private swiss bank. No real problem. Just an hour or two worth of hassle.
     
  7. dango

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    Not to off subject but it is my thread so's NEW WORLD ORDER !

    NEOCONS........now back to your schedualed programing !

    ENTITLEMENT.......................................@

    Into the fray , freigh , phreigh , fragh , Whatever....!
     
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  8. DanaT

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    They dont get that because they think the the money is THEIR money first and mine after they give some of it.
     
  9. DanaT

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    The govt is making that account close.

    But how exactly do you think having people holding money in named accounts move to unnamed accounts is making it harder to hide money for anyone who wanted to?
     
  10. tous

    tous GET A ROPE!

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    And your casinos.

    :wavey:
     
  11. certifiedfunds

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    The people paying for the service did not negotiate the fee. Public employees negotiated with politicians who had neither your best interest nor the taxpayers' best interest in mind.
     
  12. certifiedfunds

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    It's kind of funny that no one has figured out that you and I feed at the Medicare trough too......(you, at least any U.S. business you have).
     
  13. Averageman

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    I'm talking about the Military.
    How do you keep a Military if you don't want to pay them a living wage?
    How do you keep new people comming in to replace those leaving when you screw those leaving out of promised benefits?
    How do you pull from the ever shrinking qualified population when you do the above two?
    The Ponzi Scheme to me would be that yu promise a reward for my labor and then pull the rug out when the job is completed and the reward is due.
    As a believer in the free market you have to compete for labor, this equals money and/or benefits.
     
  14. DanaT

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    They havent even figured out that the people I need to hire will be 29 hours. At 30 hours/week Obamacare kicks in and it costs a lot more money. So my solution. I will hire 2 twenty hours employees instead of 1 40 hour. Of course I cant do that for the "professional level" jobs but the lower end of the employees will reap the benefits of having to be under 30 hours.
     
  15. frizz

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    Your main point is valid, but the quoted one is debatable. Consider that in many or maybe most European countries, you can go to prison for expressing certain opinions. Then consider Britain's horrible defamation laws.

    Rapist Roman Polanski successfully sued a magazine publisher for libel over a rather minor and unrelated error that cast him in a bad light.
     
  16. DanaT

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    I have already said that contracts that have been made need to be delivered. I also said that compensation may or may not be correct. Past pay packages are not binding on future pay packages.

    What you dont see is your sacred cow is not the same sacred cow as bmoore's sacred cow. I promise you he would sacrifice your cow to make sure his lived and I suspect you would do the same.

    No one program is the problem just like bmoores $40 a year is not the problem. The problem is when you add them all up, the money is gone.

    How does your family pay for everything if you are spending 30% more than your paycheck?
     
  17. bmoore

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    Awesome, you agree with my fire protection districts benefit fee. We are not a city, we do not get sales tax. We charge 40 dollars a year benefit fee to households in our district. 4 stations, 4 paramedic engine companies, 2 paramedic ambulances, 2 brush fire engines, a heavy rescue and an on duty batt chief. You call we show up. We have about 80,000 residents in our district and we turn out about 11,000 unit responses a year. We love it and are proud to serve.

    I reside in an area that is a district not a city. My benefit fee is about 50 bucks a year. I gladly pay it. 3 blocks from my house where my wife and baby are I have a medic engine with 4 guys on it and paramedic ambulance with 2 medics on it. Money well spent.
     
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  18. DanaT

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    In general, about the only thing that you cant say in Germany is something bad about Jewish people. That is illegal.

    But in day to day life, you would be surprised. I was walking in the middle of Stuttgart yesterday drinking beer. I sat a table in the beer tent. There were 16 year old kids (they had an arm band saying they were 16 or 17) drinking liters of beer. No police bothered anyone.
     
  19. DanaT

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    I have no issues paying for what I use. I "use" fire protection and should pay for it.

    In fact, I think direct taxes like this are best. You pay directly where the money goes. People would then pay what is important and throw the rest out.

    EDIT. I also think getting the money as close to where it is needed. It is more efficient.
     
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  20. bmoore

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    Damn man we agree on something. I would like a direct tax to the military.