Embarrassment as punishment...?

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  1. glock192327

    glock192327 Where is eye

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    I couldn't find this topic in the search feature, but this "has" to have come up at some point in CT.

    Saw just a few minutes of something, think it was on Discovery, or National Geographic this morning early...roughly 5:30am. Concerned a place in Texas, with a judge by the last name Poe. Like I said, I didn't see much of it, but it was interesting. The judge handed down punishment to fit the crime, with community embarrassment as one method. For example, some guy was DWI, hit another car at over 100mph, and killed two of the three people in the car. The judge required a number of things, among them that the guy had to carry a sign along a major highway, at various times, for ten years, with the sign telling what he had done. From what they were saying, the people that came before the judge had a very low percentage of ever breaking the law again. And after seeing the looks of some of the people on the highway, I can understand why. His probation officer would go at certain times, just to protect the guy.

    Perhaps I'm just thinking this is good because I want to see more justice dealt as was done in earlier centuries, both here and abroad. But from a law enforcement perspective, do you guys think this is the way punishment should be given, and therefore, make the bad guy, and possibly others think twice, prior to committing the crime? It's of course not a novel way of providing justice, but I like the idea, I really do. And I have to admit, it appeals to my sense of retribution....and vengeance.
     
  2. Eyescream

    Eyescream hates you

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    Not a cop, but I like it a lot.
     

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    DaBigBR No Infidels!

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    Here killing somebody with your car while you were drunk would get you 25 years.
     
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    glock192327 Where is eye

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    I'm not so sure I wouldn't go with life, or perhaps death, for the situation. But judging from the reactions of some of the perpetrators sentenced by this judge, they would've gladly perferred life in prison, over some of the things they were required to do. Gets frustrating to see people with 6-8 DWI's, that are still walking around, until they get into another car, and then kill someone the next time around. But I guess that's our justice system...plenty of laws, rules, and regulations, but not a whole lotta teeth behind them, to take a serious bite.
     
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    Seeing a drunk driver kill a 4 year old little boy in a car accident on Christmas morning and put the boy's parents in the hospital for almost a year will rapidly change your opinion on DUIs..............
     
  6. lawman800

    lawman800 Juris Glocktor

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    It just keeps getting better, don't it?
    DUI causing death is 2nd degree murder in CA which will get you 15 to 25 years.

    That being said, shaming is nothing new here. In San Francisco of all places, johns who get popped for prostitution have their cars impounded and their pictures put up on a huge billboard with what they had done for the whole city to see. How embarassing is that? Also, guess who they call to notify of the arrest? Yep, the wife.

    I say bring back the stockade in the town square. Load up on rotten vegetables and sell them cheap to the crowd. Get rid of unsellable groceries and make the city a profit.
     
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    glock192327 Where is eye

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    I've never thought about that. It is extremely ironic that of all places, San Francisco, would use that tactic. Since they seem to be the city that basically says anyone can do anyone else, no harm, no foul. If you get my drift...

    Stockade yeah, my sentiments exactly. Maybe that's the romantic in me..haha. But then somebody comes along and declares that it's cruel and unusual punishment.
     
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    Blitzer Cool Cat

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    Do mean the stock and pillory?

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    glock192327 Where is eye

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    Yepper, da pillory, dat be da apparatus. There's nothing cruel and unusual about that. Any town with over a dozen population, should have at least one.
     
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    Ted Poe was a Judge in Harris County (Houston). He then ran for Congress and won.
     
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    lawman800 Juris Glocktor

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    It just keeps getting better, don't it?
    Or that other type of stock where it's just your legs and you sit down and they lock up your ankles and you just sit there and can't get up. That's pretty bad too because you are just sitting there looking stupid.

    Oh... here's something you guys probably haven't seen... this is a Chinese type portable stock before the days of handcuffs, this is how prisoners are brought to court in China and paraded on the streets, back in the day.

    I like it... just like a portable stock and pillory. Sorry for the small image but it's not like people had a lot of cameras back in the day in Asia like they do now.:supergrin:

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    Here too, at least in theory. Unless of course the person you hit was a cop, then they would drop the charges against you.

    Sorry, color me bitter.
     
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    GioaJack Conifer Jack

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    Hell, I'd look at that as a badge of honor... I'd even get Viagra to sponsor me. :supergrin:

    Jack
     
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    :rofl: That's good. I suppose it's all in how you look at it.
     
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    I caught a deer poacher who was a butcher at a national chain supermarket. Besides the fines, the judge sentenced him to 80 hours community service ringing the bell for the Salvation Army in front of the competitor's store down the block.

    I was still at the jail when his wife came in to bail him out and she chewed his tail all the way out to the parking lot and was still givin' it to him as they drove off.

    Nothin' beats payin' now AND payin' later for your own stupidity.
     
  16. obxemt

    obxemt Chaplain of CT

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    I say screw that hokie pokie nonsense and send them to jail.

    We have a woman serving 62 years for four counts of second degree murder from a DWI wreck.
     
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    Hack Crazy CO Gold Member

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    I say poke them into the cell and leave them there for a while. A very long while. They will become the walking dead.
     
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    glock192327 Where is eye

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    Why Reverend, I am shocked by your response. Seriously, it would be interesting to know, how many do actually continue to pay for their crimes, or that serve anywhere near the original sentence given. Maybe I just read about the ones that get off way too easy...then get pissed over it, want to go back to beheadings, or LM's Pillory till Maggotry....
     
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    We got on the 2nd degree murder kick for a while. I think they're back to felony death by vehicle now.
     
  20. lawman800

    lawman800 Juris Glocktor

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    It just keeps getting better, don't it?
    If you hit a cop in LA, you would also get about $2M in settlement along with a new car.

    ZOMBIES! ZOMG!!11!!1!11!1

    Get the ZEDU carbine! We need to get on with the zombie elimination/disposal stat!

    I like that. Heavens to Murgertroy!