East Cleveland Police Shooting.

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  1. G26-Has-my-6

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    The distance between the muzzle and BG's head was maybe 3-5 feet, and there was at least two feet between his head and the hostage.
     

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    Are you speaking to the FLIR footage, or the East Cleveland footage? In the FLIR, it appears the officer was essentially right on top of the hostage taker, which is why it worked out so neatly. In East Cleveland, I'd estimate the distance to be well under 10 yards, and the head of the hostage was at about hip level with the bad guy. You'd have less chance of errant projectiles striking the hostage in East Cleveland than what's shown in the FLIR footage, but again, Tactical Teds like the one here will plant their flag on the idea that a hostage shot cannot be taken with a shotgun, period.
     
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    nitesite10mm Sheepdog

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    What exactly is that?
     
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    He's been asked, he refused to answer. Maybe you'll have better luck, or maybe Big Shooter there found enough spine to answer, but I'm doubtful.
     
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    Oh I'm sure there will be those that ask, "Why didn't he shoot him in the leg to just wound him?" Why did he have to kill him? Why did he have to shoot him so many times.
    Will the Reverend Jesse Jacka$$ show up in Cleveburg soon to start the marches?
    Glad he took him off this planet.
     
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    In reality, not your tortured imagination, the occurrence of this shooting has been received with pretty much zero effs given here in Cleveland.
     
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    Tomcat1977 Unapologetic Deplorable.

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    Well....its cold out.
     
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    FYI. The President of the Southwest Pistol League shot the competitions with his LAPD approved (grandfathered) long barrel .38 special. He was ridiculed by people who shot Colt .45acps with mounted scopes. One day, there was a hostage situation at the Division. He ended it with a head shot. He then retired.

    1. under pressure, you perform as you train.
    2. if you want to cloud your mind with issues like race gun, caliber, magazine capacity, defensive round, two to the chest and one to the head, it is on you.
     
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    Good
     
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    I was a Federal Firearms Instructor for 18 years and I would like to know what a Glock range officer is? I was trained at Glynco, GA. Where do Glock range officers train? Austria?
     
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    Tomcat1977 Unapologetic Deplorable.

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    I was one too. I owned a Glock, shot at a range, and was a Police Officer. I honed my GRO skills at a ghetto garbage dump shooting rats on midnights. I even have a certificate on the wall.
     
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    Bet she had a few rounds in her drawers when that was over, but you won’t need ballistics to confirm they weren’t from the shotgun...

    Goodness, how dangerous, you could put an eye out with that!

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    :chatter:

     
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    None of the officers I remember as a kid had a college degree, but every officer was well liked, kind to everyone, humble and showing charity , but still did their job.

    Not the first officer had the problem with a deadly enemy called, "PRIDE".
     
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    So, being a "Glock range officer" confers no ACTUAL expertise upon you, despite you implying it does or should? Got it.

    Listen, Shoots, you've shown yourself to be completely ignorant of the subject matter YET AGAIN. You did it when you went by K9patrol, and you're doing it again now.

    Make no mistake, everyone who knows anything about the subject matter seas through you and your fake expertise. At this point, you're doing nothing but embarrassing yourself.

    Please, Shoots, for your own sake, just stop.

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    Someone needs to let the adults talk.:couch:
     
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    TBO Why so serious? CLM

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    Hindsight is always 20/20.

    Cops respond as quickly as possible with very little accurate information to a call unfolding in real time.

    If you grab your rifle for every single call you take:

    -people & the Internet boards call you a jackbooted thug

    -you may have major issues/limitations when you need to go hands on

    LE isn't a spectator sport.

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    CPD officers are issued either Glock 17 or Glock 19 9mm sidearms.
    (but don't know if it was CPD)
     
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    Terry, I have answered the question in a long post, so won't go back over it.

    The Glock district manager over the Glock sponsored Glock (GSSF) matches asked me if I would work the Glock sponsored matches in the area as a range officer for him. He laid out the responsibilities, and I agreed, and there was no pay involved.

    It was no big deal, but the whiners seem to have their panties in a wad. Maybe because they have never been asked. They could have done an equally good a job or better. That is had they been asked.

    A person could have been every kind of firearms instructor, trained by Mossad, and a world cup shooter.
    It had nothing to do with who you are, what you were trained to do, nor where you were trained, or by whom they were trained.

    You may know Corey in Ga., but knowing them is not the reason he asked me. In fact, from memory he asked two others besides myself. We just happen to agree to work the Glock sponsored matches for him, when he asked.

    We three did receive a Range Officer's cap. If anyone feels slighted, I could loan them my cap.
    Glock (GSSF) Range Officer's cap. Glock GSSF RANGE OFFICER.jpg
     
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