Earth Needs Fewer People to Beat the Climate Crisis, Scientists Say

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  1. ERASER

    ERASER Nyuk,Nyuk,Nyuk!

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    Berto woo woo

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    I dont have much problem with the science of climate change, but in the larger picture I think its the height of human arrogance to presume we have control over the earth's climate. Whether mankind is here or gone, the earth will keep earthing and the Sun will keep aging.
     
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  3. Dave Lively

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    Regardless of how much effect it has on global warming the last thing Atlanta needs is more people. I hear the same from people in other large cities too. The roads are a congested mess, the price of housing is soaring to unaffordable levels, urban sprawl has pushed 20 miles north in the 30 years I have been here, in an area that averages over 40 inches of rain a year we often have water restrictions and everything seems crowded in general. All because the population of the greater Atlanta area has doubled over the past 30 years Population growth is good for business, tax revenue and propping up social security but it's negative impact on quality of life is a very high price to pay.

    The more people the more CO2 and other pollution too. I do not see how the left can both call themselves environmentalists and support the open borders policies that are a major factor driving up population.

    But all our idiot politicians have to say on the subject of population growth is we do not have enough of it. Both the right and the left wants to encourage more people to have babies with family friendly tax policies and increased levels of legal immigration. The left also wants the "benefits" of even more population growth from open borders.

    The US population cannot keep growing forever. If something cannot go on forever that means it has to stop. Putting of dealing with the problems of a stable population is not going to be any easier 50 years from now with 600 million people living here.
     
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    Gino Millennium Member

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    We have exceeded the carrying capacity of the environment in our cities. We prop it up by trucking in food and piping out waste. There has to be a tipping point coming up sometime soon.
     
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    Big Bird NRA Life Member

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    The key to all our environmental and social problems is simple...capitalism and increased prosperity.

    Wealthy populations have negative growth rates. FACT

    Environmentalism is an expensive hobby and it requires prosperous people who have money and freedom. I promise I've lived and worked in too many third world crapholes to know. Poor people are worried about food on the table and clean water...followed by a roof over their head. The last thing they care about is the idiotic theory of climate change. They'll chop down every damn tree in a 30 mile radius to heat their homes or cook their food. I've seen it... The entire Warsaw Pact and Eastern Bloc Communist countries had two sad things in common. They were brutally poor and their cities and waterways were filthy cesspools of industrial waste and pollution. But they were socialists--I'm sure they cared about the environment...nope.

    Push capitalism, free markets, and prosperity and the environment and human population problem will take care of itself inside of 50 years
     
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    This conforms perfectly with The Powernoodle Principle. Kooky leftists view humans as evil oppressors of poor, victimized Mother Earth - so the evil oppressors must be punished. Same principle that nutty leftists apply to everything from Big Pharma to the American military. Perceived oppressors vs. perceived victims. It all derives from the poor leftist having been dropped on her head as a baby, or having no daddy. Same result. She sees herself as a victim, so she spends her life trying to punish those she (wrongly) perceives as victimizers.
     
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    Just look how nice things are in Mumbai....real garden spot and this will be our future unless we (The USA) shut our borders.
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  9. Intolerant

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    Human life is like a upside down pyramid.
    Two people make three or four kids, their kids do the same.

    See the population problem yet?
     
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    Mass sterilization.
    Euthanasia.
    Genocide.
    The environmental movement is, at its heart, an anti-human movement. They won't speak of these things now. 20 years from now, those who are left will wonder how it all happened.
     
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    Will AOC take one for the cause?
     
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    Dukeboy01 Pretty Ladies!

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    Too much of you guys. Just the right amount of me...
     
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    I'm sure something like this would help with their goal of 'population reduction.' :whistling:

    But maybe for more than just one night a year.


    View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K0LLaybEuzA

    :popcorn:
     
  14. Flying-Dutchman

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    Exponential growth can be a hard concept for some.

    This was a big concern around 1970 and with the Sierra Club too but then ignored because it was thought of as racist after they realized it is Africa and India that are the problem.

    Half the growth will be in Africa by 2050, 30 short years away. 1.2 Billion Africans added by 2050.

    https://qz.com/africa/1016790/more-...-population-growth-will-be-in-africa-by-2050/
     
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    Sure she will, give her one of these, tell her it shoots great, and nice and straight!

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    Quijibo King Doofus.

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    Any eco-freak who has children is a hypocrite.
     
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    Humans have done a lot of killing but the big killers will be disease and famine when we reach peak carrying capacity. What that number is is unknown and even if an unlimited number can be supported how will the quality of life be?

    Europe and Japan have stopped their population growth without killing (besides abortion).

    The other nations can too.

    The USA won WWII with 133 million people. I am not anti people but I liked it when there was less traffic and endless ugly development.
     
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    A couple of these in strategic locations.

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    At some point, we’ll have a massive pandemic. They’re cyclical and unavoidable. They’ve happened throughout history.

    In all likelihood, Southeast Asia will be ground zero. Too many people in close contact with too many farm animals. Many living in squalid conditions. It’s a recipe for disaster.