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Dropping a 1911

Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by 3000fps, Jan 30, 2012.

  1. 3000fps

    3000fps

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    Is there a risk of a discharge

    (I don't really want to call it negligent because dropping your gun CAN be an accident, whether it fell out of your holster getting in a car etc.)

    in dropping a 1911?

    I was considering purchasing a 1911 for carry, possibly a 4" to put in my center console when i'm traveling as a backup gun.

    (yes the gun will be locked up when i'm not in the vehicle)

    I know Glock's have drop safeties, but what is to stop a 1911 from going off if it hits the ground?
     
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    It depends on the pistol. Some 1911's have a firing pin block that will prevent the gun from inertia firing if dropped directly on the muzzle. Pistols that do not have the FPS can utilize a titanium firing pin and a heavier firing pin spring to reduce that risk. These pistols are often referred to as "California Legal" as they must pass CA's drop test.

    Quite frankly, it's never been a big concern for me. Somewhere I have a copy of a test someone did, dropping a a 1911 muzzle first on to various surfaces and heights with an empty but primed case in the chamber.
     
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    Why the big concern about dropping it ? Are you French ? j/k
     
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    :rofl: I just shot water out my nose
     
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    mrsurfboard The Anti-Glock

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    Series 80 refers to Colt 1911s. Outside of Colt it really has no meaning.
     
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    Right or wrong, its generally accepted that 80's series have firing pin safetys and 70's series don't. Regardless of the maker. Didn't we already argue about this?:rofl:
     
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    it has to hit a hard surface strait on the barrel, and then it might go off, don't let that stop you from buying a great platform, there are 1911 with firing pin safety, Colts 80 & 90 series, Smith& Wesson not the new E series and Kimber comes to mind now.
     
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    mrsurfboard The Anti-Glock

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    The new S&W E Series 1911s don't have a FP safety. They use a titanium FP and a heavier FP spring to prevent drop fires.
     
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    IIRC, a M1911 with normal parts in good working order needs a drop on a hard surface ON IT'S MUZZLE from over SIX FEET to set off primer. Put in a stronger FP spring, or a lighter FP, and the margin becomes higher.
     
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    Thanks, I fixed....
     
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    Well, the gun I was looking at was the Sig Sauer 1911 Scorpion carry, it doesn't say what series it is / if it has a FP block or titanium pin. :dunno:

    Interesting posts none the less, thank you!

    I think I will concentrate more on not dropping it, but it seems as if I'm dropping my guns at least once a week. I DEFINITELY learned my lesson on not trying to catch it..
     
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    Yeah, I think working on not dropping weapons you already have is more important than buying a new one.
     
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    Yes and no, these days you can Xerox a document on a Canon copier, and a S&W 1911 can have a series 80 FPS. :supergrin:
     
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    mrsurfboard The Anti-Glock

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    Sure, but if your looking for that type of wording on the S&W website, you aren't going to find it. I knew what you meant, but someone new to 1911s might not.
     
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    With any 1911 I don't think it's an issue.
     
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    Yea, there is the Swartz safety but I'm not sure of any current production 1911s that use it other than Kimber. Other companies use a 80 series type of safety that works off the trigger like Taurus (your favorite :supergrin:) but I haven't seen other types.
     
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    Okay, there is a story here yet to be told.:popcorn:
     
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    I'm not sure if the sig 1911 has a firing pin safety or not. If you look at the bottom of the slide and see a firing pin safety/plunger sticking out the bottom that will tell you.