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Discussion in 'Covid-19 News/Info' started by rock_castle, Mar 28, 2020.
Dr. Birx is definitely the adult in the room.
Very good at communicating information in an informative and useful manner.
Ever changing dynamic conditions. Each day brings new perspective.
In tonight's update it was Trump who backtracked.
He moved his "beautiful" Easter date to June 1 citing the data and asking Dr. Fauci to speak to it.
WI flu/pneumonia data 11 weeks ending 3/14/20 hard data:
WI Corona thing from memory news a little bit ago:
I just want to thank you for all of us for giving us a bit of inside baseball on this. I am very glad my days of working Patrol are over and I can keep my carcass home and only venture out as really needed! Apparently we had our first death in Washoe County today due to the Wuhan Flu/Covid 19.
I found it ironic that just a few days after Trump’s announcement that everything would open up on Easter, Birx suddenly hits the stage.
It was Fauci that publicly questioned The Easter Proclamation, and now Birx is now the go to doc? Fauci was heralded as THE expert, but suddenly it’s Birx?
Take the rose colored glasses away from the trumpettes and have them read Dr. Fauci's resume. A damn smart man
Why do people refer to what Trump said as an Easter Proclamation. It was a hope of what may be possible. As the situation evolves, hopes and expectations are adjusted. A Grade Schooler would probably understand this.
Trump always said it was a goal . We will see what happens.
Fauci is a contributor to the whack job msm.
Basic dynamic situation. Requires daily adjustment.
Pathetic how in an emergency the maybe not so bright or just plain dishonest msm spews their propaganda.
Yet many consumers are conned in to believing them.
Based on Fauci public performance. He has no credibility.
Maybe educated but not effective communicator.
Perhaps because of their bias.
Or just listen to the bogus MSM.
It never was a proclamation.
Birx is clear and concise.
Faci is the waffling researcher . Can not make a confident statement. Really no added value in communicating current state of the condition. Always speculative.
Effective SME is Dr Birx.
Fauci comes across as a research "tinkerer".
The kind that never seem to come to a conclusion.
In an urgent situation that we are in the job needs a decisive implementer who can reduce the cycle time to get results.
Apparently Fauci is not cut out for rapid development.
I’ve been learning from Fauci for over forty years. The rest of this chatter is just people not understanding what they don’t know, and I firmly support President Trump.
Dr Fauci IN NO WAY definitively or even speculatively stated a lesser cumulative mortality rate. OANN, as journalistic publications are “occasionally”known to do, took a discussion out of context and summarized incorrectly.
The article was an editorial, and was a focused discussion specifically on two studies of early data out of Wuhan previously published. The discussion of Dr Fauci et al was primarily confined to the data and specifics of those two studies, and not the whole of the presently available data. As such, an editorial like this is published to offer insights, primarily to other medical professionals, as to the strengths and weakness of specific data and in no way is meant to offer summarization of the data or in itself draw conclusions.
Specifically, the information misquoted was, “If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%.” Specifically this discussion addresses data and possible assumptions or assertions made by the authors, or factors not considered in the discussions by the original authors.
Clearly editorials like this are speculative in nature and are directed at other medical professionals who are
already in possession of knowledge on the subject, not meant to be interpreted (oft incorrectly) by lay personnel, nor are they meant to be statements of conclusion.
Speculative contingencies college professor faculty lounge option.
But presented in the popular press.
These types of comments provided by Fauci really is not a good method of sharing information to the public.
If actually a professional paper, the medical journals would be the place to publish.
News outlets need to have better editing. Yet the expert need to be aware how the general public likely would receive any quotes or discussion
Fauci has been in the medical profession for decades. He owes the public more common sense savvy communications to the general public.
He may be an expert however as a communicator needs to improve.
In comparatively few comments, Dr Birx communicates the information in an objective and understandable manner. Great format for the general public.
Trump never should have mentioned Easter. Big mistake. He seems a little slow wrapping his brain around how serious this pandemic is. Exactly like the majority on this forum.
I voted for Trump and will again in 2020.
Some of you are as brainwashed as the liberals are.
Amen to that one.
Sadly, many here took it to heart and believed that Trump was speaking factually, and turned on Fauci when he cast doubt on Trumps statement.
For some to say now that Fauci is not qualified is ignorant at very best. He’s a scientist and he has to adjust his message as data becomes relevant. He has no political bend.
I still support Trump, but he needs to let the scientists make the speculative forecasts.
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You seem to be focused on the possible number of deaths. There is a much bigger picture to take in, and, btw, you aren’t the only one to focus solely on this data point. My assumption is that many have a deep seated fear of dying.
Is the possible inundation that hospitals may soon face as they are in NYC completely lost on you? Do you understand that if we slow the roll on hospital admissions, we can slow the death toll? There will also be many, many people with lungs scarred from fibrosis and incapable to carry on with normal life.
It’s not just the mortality rate, (which we won’t know for certain until it’s over) it’s the attempt to keep it low, as well as keeping people relatively healthy and off the disability roles.