Doctors call for end to 45 common medical tests, procedures

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  1. snerd

    snerd Horselover Fat

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    Man! I just went through my second colonoscopy this morning! Been 7 years since the first.

    The 45 tests and procedures considered to be overused include:

    • Repeat colonoscopies within 10 years of a first test

    • Early imaging for most back pain

    • Brain scans for patients who fainted but didn't have seizures

    • Antibiotics for mild- to-moderate sinusitis unless symptoms last for seven or more days or worsen

    • Stress cardiac imaging or advanced non-invasive imaging in the initial evaluation of patients without cardiac symptoms unless high-risk markers are present

    • PAP smears on women younger than 21 or who have had a hysterectomy for a non-cancer disease

    • Advanced imaging or bone scans in patients with early-stage breast or low-grade prostate cancer

    • Bone scan screening for osteoporosis in women younger than 65 or men younger than 70 with no risk factors

    • Routine cancer screening on dialysis patients with limited life expectancies

    • Chemotherapy for sickest cancer patients
    For the complete lists of "Five Things Physicians and Patients Should Question" go to: Choosingwisely.org

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46950533/ns/health-cancer/#.T3y2sdWnntk
     
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    I literally just a few seconds ago posted this on the same thread in another forum:

    It is not possible to give everyone every screening test.

    Therefore, it is important to develop a set of criteria which identify those people who are most likely (in a statistical sense) to benefit from a particular screening test.

    these doctors are saying (and I don't know if they're right or not, I'm just presenting their reasoning) that some screening tests are overused/not used on the right patients/don't measurably improve the outcome, therefore we should stop doing them except in patients who have X, Y, or Z risk factor.

    Pretty straightforward stuff. I'm not qualified to comment (medically) if they're right or not.
     

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    snerd Horselover Fat

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    Oh, the same story? I searched but nothing showed up. Maybe the mods can delete this one.
     
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    Another forum that's not GT, you're fine
     
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    The overuse of diagnostics is a direct result of malpractice lawsuits.

    Once again, nearly every societal ill can be traced back to lawyers.
     
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    snerd Horselover Fat

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    I thought I awoke briefly during my c-scope......... and I was a little uncomfortable with the smiles on everyone's faces. ???
     
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    lpo what?!?!?!?!?

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    Imagine how uncomfortable a smile on your face would have made them.. ROFL! :)

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    More time on the golf course, I suspect....aahahah.
     
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    Well that and the fact that so many clinics have purchased equipment that they need to pay off.
     
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    This article is about "getting equitable access to health care." Can you say rationing?

    ChoosingWisely is a leftist propaganda group dedicated to promoting ObamaCare.

    Their partners (or should that be "comrades") are listed here:
    Choosing Wisely Consumer Communication Collaborators:

    ■AARP
    ■Alliance Health Networks
    ■The Leapfrog Group
    ■Midwest Business Group on Health
    ■National Business Coalition on Health
    ■National Business Group on Health
    ■National Center for Farmworker Health
    ■National Partnership for Women and Families
    ■Pacific Business Group on Health
    ■SEIU
     
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    That is exactly what this is----BS. I will rely on the doctors I trust to make the determination----the doctor who knows me and sees me regularly and not some panel of doctors. The rationing begins.
     
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    Where does that doctor get his or her information? They read studies and they take the recommendation of groups of medical professionals and statisticians, right?
     
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    True dat. Just give me and my family the same insurance and health plan as the U.S. Congress, the U.S. Senate and the President and I will be fine.
     
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    Congresspeople, senators, and the President all get their choice of the same health plans as every other federal government employee. I think most of them get Blue Cross Blue Shield.

    My health insurance is probably better than that of most Senators.
     
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    If we are going to socialized medicine. I want the same care as the President and every Senator and Congressman.
     
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    lpo what?!?!?!?!?

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    Ya'll hiring? LOL!

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    Mrs. VR Sharon, you will be missed.

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    I was totally awake for one of mine, and the doctor did NOT appreciate it when I said " you know, if anyone else tried to drug me and do this they'd be arrested"!




    At a quick glance, some of those seem fairly reasonable, but some do not.
     
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    lpo what?!?!?!?!?

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    My dad jokingly demanded and kiss first, and asked if he would still be repected in the morning. :)

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    I was totally awake after the doctor's cocktail. He commented
    that I didn't feel a thing? (his drugs). It was no big deal the
    procedure, but he was pissed that he had too be there on
    a Saturday afternoon when his favorite ballgame was playing.

    His tech assisting was new, but excuse the pun, as the tech
    didn't know **** from shinola!

    Since it was done on an emergency basis the doc was pissed
    that he was missing his game. This doc was the best
    Gastroentologist in town, but it was obvious that he was
    pissed off that my rear end was disturbing his day.

    I'm really trying to end this politely, but Dr. Buck: Go ****
    yourself!

    Everything turned out fine as far as my colon, but you got
    payed to do your job. :wavey: