Do you still carry an old school baton?

Absolutely. I'm well under 40 and get made fun of for it, but I'd rather hit someone with that then the wimpy assed asp they issued me.

28 inch Poly Carb baton... works well in all situations a pointer an hammer a knocker and I have used it to scale a fence.. stick it in the links between the corners of a chain link and it acts as a step...

30 inch Dymondwood Ebony! Everyday.

A 29-inch Dymondwood rides with me. I have grown less and less fond of the ASP concept, other than the fact that it's capable of being "always there" in a pinch.

A good straight baton helps to create a damn strong command presence.

29" Dymondwood

We issue them and require you carry them in the squad, if not on your person, at all times. I'm an instructor

A few of our more seasoned guys have collections... Dymondwood, Bloodwood, Ironwood, etc

Cocobolo straight stick in the car, crusty retired sergeant ordered it for me from the Koga Institute. It comes out when I expect to need Mr. Thumpy.

A always have a cocobolo on hand. While I do have an Asp on my rig I have found it to be way more effective when used closed, in your fist.

Nothing comes close to a straight up whomping with the cocobolo. There is a reason riot sticks are still wood.


All these new kids are sporting these "ultra light" Asps. Conned by the store I am sure. I have no clue why they even carry that thing. It is useless i you ask me.

Ohhhhh how I miss my PR-24.....

These crummy expandables, they aren't good for much more than fishing **** out from behind the fridge and pushing the callbox button on the gate at the main jail drive-up....

But that PR, you hit somebody with that bad boy, he stayed HIT.

ranger1968 said:

Ohhhhh how I miss my PR-24.....

These crummy expandables, they aren't good for much more than fishing **** out from behind the fridge and pushing the callbox button on the gate at the main jail drive-up....

But that PR, you hit somebody with that bad boy, he stayed HIT.

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Did you have an aluminum one? I did...a Casco I bought from Long Beach Uniform nearly 20 year ago. It had a nice patina where the paint had worn off...it seems that PR-24s are disappearing from belts these days but from what I understand, Detroit is mandated to carry them due to a recent incident...

I started my LEO career in 1980. We carried the Monadnock PR-24. It was made out of the same stuff as bowling balls. I am retired, but still have my PR-24. It lives in my computer room. What a great piece of equipment it was and still is.

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Did you have an aluminum one? I did...a Casco I bought from Long Beach Uniform nearly 20 year ago. It had a nice patina where the paint had worn off...it seems that PR-24s are disappearing from belts these days but from what I understand, Detroit is mandated to carry them due to a recent incident...

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Nope, we had the Monadanocks, the poly carbonate, indestructible, denser than coal , one-piece heavy ones...I still have mine, we just can't carry them anymore, which sucks, becuase they were GREAT....jabs, blocks, and a hell of a swing. What a great tool....

Makes me hate that friggin' Rodney King even more.:steamed:

nitesite10mm said:

A 29-inch Dymondwood rides with me. I have grown less and less fond of the ASP concept, other than the fact that it's capable of being "always there" in a pinch.

A good straight baton helps to create a damn strong command presence.

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The only expandible baton that I ever found to be worth a damn was the Winchester-Wilmoth baton, but it was really heavy. I have an NYPD-pattern cocobolo stick that has been my loyal companion for many years.

Looking back, I realize the advantage of working in uniform is that you can carry a big-ass fighting nightstick with you, wherever you go, and nobody pays any attention.

I miss my 24 inch baton, S&W manufactured, made of heavy wood (oak, cherrywood or mahogany?). It was a fight stopper most of the time, without a swing needed at all! And when it had to be swung, it hurt the other guy-a lot, usually ending hostilities. A real cop's tool.

Always found it funny that in the liberal land of California that the only departments I see on COPS with the big wooden batons are California ones.

We use these on CERT:

http://www.galls.com/style.html?assort=general_catalog&cat=&style=BA118

Back in 1970 or so, I got caught in the middle of a full blown riot. I was trying to run away and between the cops. I guess they thought I was a threat. One of them slammed me on the side of the head with his old style baton and almost knocked me out. Not even my multiple kidney stones hurt so much. So I can attest to the effectiveness of those things.

It hurt like hell!!!