do you include a DL# when selling firearms FTF?

I have never provided or been asked to provide a DL #. I dont think it would be a deal breaker for me but I would prefer not to provide it. The only thing I ask for is Name, address, and a signature agreeing to the terms on the bill of sale.

 

Wow - I've sold and traded plenty of guns in my life, but never had a bill of sale.

 

On the one and only "internet" sale I've done thus far, I required a photocopy of the buyer's DL and a photocopy of the FFL license of the person/place I was sending it to. I took the gun to a local FFL, transferred it to him...who then mailed/transferred it to the other FFL, who transferred it to the final owner. On face to face sales, I take a picture of the buyers DL. If someone is wanting a trail-free firearm, I don't want to sell them anything and they won't want to buy from me.

 

If the other party shows up in a car with Texas tags, it's a good sale to me.

 

No, I do not provide any information beyond proving I'm a resident of my state, if the seller asks. I also require nothing from the buyer beyond proving residency. This entails a quick look at a driver's license. I have no use for additional paper trails. I've never had a buyer require a bill-of-sale.

 

Adsoutely not.
I tell the buyer/seller nothing and I ask for nothing.
Swap money. Swap gun. Walk away.

I love ending the paper trail on a gun. I bought a Colt FTF last week. I haven't a clue who the seller was and he doesn't know me.

But I will bend a little and show the seller my CHL, while covering up the information, to show him I am a state resident and I am not a criminal.

I am always amazed at the amount of information people will willingly give a stranger when it's not required.


Bottom line. Follow the law and don't worry about it.

 

Rather than post my own...

+1

 

I ask to see a DL, but only glance to see the photo matches the buyer. Fed regs require all transfers take place in the home state of the buyer.

I do like Glock-it-to-me's approach. Just never thought of it before.

 

I sold a chain saw to a guy last week and I made him give me a certified copy of his birth certificate and passport.

 

Now I can understand that with a chain saw, those things are dangerous.

 

Me either, but I do make the buyer show me a valid DL.

 

Nope, I don't care to provide that kind of info to strangers.

I don't ever recall a "bill of sale" either. Flash a DL to verify state residency, and swap the cash-fer-gun.

If anything seems "off" about the person or the sale, politely withdraw.

 

If I'm living in other state I will be happy not to turn in any prove of identity. But at mine, it's call felony.

However, if it was long gun and C&R, we can choose not to show any ID.

 

Not sure about the exact law - maybe depends on the state.

I thought the law in Texas was you can't sell a gun to someone

IF YOU KNOW they can not legally buy one

Which is not the same as

Requiring you to verify they can legally buy a gun.

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I have never sold a gun - but when I buy -- I always want the seller to provide me with his shoe size and a list of his favorite TV shows.

 

Ditto.

 

A person really can't do anything with the number if it is not your social security number. But I have never shown mine except to a ffl when buying a gun. If it is ftf I have never shown anything at all.

 

I always copy down the DL # of the person I'm selling to.

 

It's a double-edged sword selling face-to-face with a paper trail. Obviously you protect yourself if the gun ultimately prooves to be stolen or used in a crime.

HOWEVER

There just may come a time where it might be to your advantage to say "Sorry Mr. JBT but I sold them all face-to-face to guys I didn't ask for ID at the gunshow while it was still legal to do so. I didn't want to be a criminal so I made sure I sold them when I saw the XYZ legislation coming down the pike. Nope, no guns here anymore. I'm a good citizen."

No paper trail allows deniability, which *might* come in handy some day in our future......

 

I must be missing something - what is the benefit of doing this? (I assume it is not required by law)