Hello guys and ladys It seems that no matter where or what forum you go on the internet there is always the "What caliber is the roght one or the better on" and if it isn't that its how important it is to have a gun that holds 15, 20 rds or your waisting your time carrying that gun. Now I say IF you can hit your target Where,when it counts really is the caliber going to matter and in all actuality how many shots are you going to be able to get off three maybe I mean come on your not going to have time to fire 15 or 20 rds in self defense encounter. We as a civilian are not going to end up in world war three out on the streets unless you go looking for it. Most law enforcement under most conditions won't fire more then 3 to 5 rds. What do you all think about these useless cal and capacity threads? Well useless to me I guess. After so many yrs involved in LE and personnel defense I just don't get the obsession with this am I wrong? I mean come on lets keep it real!