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Do you agree with "no guns, no voting for felons"

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by wjv, Aug 21, 2012.

  1. wjv

    wjv Zip It Stan Lee.. . .

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    Do you agree with the "no guns, no voting for felons" law?

    Pro: Many felons are repeat criminals so this helps keep guns out of the hands of criminals

    Con: If someone does their time, then they have paid their debt to society so ALL of their rights should be restored.

    What say you?
     
  2. simotek

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    I agree with it.
     

  3. 686Owner

    686Owner NRA Life Member

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    I have mixed feelings. I understand both sides.
     
  4. Eurodriver

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    What was the felony?
     
  5. Random

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    I disagree. Either they have paid for their crimes or they have not. If they have been deemed safe enough to be returned to society return them fully. If not, kill them or keep them in jail.
     
  6. stravis

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    I agree with it for violent crimes.

    Let me also add that I also think that anyone who is accepting government handouts should not be allowed to vote while on the dole.
     
  7. hamster

    hamster NRA Life Member

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    I suppose it would depend on the nature of the crime. For non-violent "felons" I could support restoration of firearms and voting rights if they prove to have turned their lives around.
     
  8. dabigguns357

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    I to agree,
     
  9. hamster

    hamster NRA Life Member

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    On a related note. I think people who don't own property should not be able to vote on property tax issues. Just my opinion.
     
  10. JohnBT

    JohnBT NRA Benefactor

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    "Con: If someone does their time, then they have paid their debt to society so ALL of their rights should be restored.

    What say you? "
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    They need to do more than simply serve their time at society's expense.

    They need to pay back the victims, and society, for all costs and expenses. Until the victims are made whole, there is a still a debt to society. The victims are part of society, right?

    John
     
  11. ray9898

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    I agree with it 100%. They can petition to have their rights restored once they show society can trust them again.
     
  12. SGT278ACR

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    I agree with it. It's just one of the consequences of having committed a crime (felony). Some consequences are life long. If you're a convicted felon who has done his/her time... good for you. Sorry, but you still can't carry guns or vote. You made your own bed, you have to lay in it.
     
  13. frank4570

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    I agree with it.
    I would probably feel different if the badguys tended to stay in jail more.
     
  14. frank4570

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    I absolutely agree. There is a real predictable problem with giving people free stuff, and giving them the ability to vote for more free stuff.
     
  15. holesinpaper

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    Con: it's un-Constitutional.

    Pro: it's Constitutional.

    If they are on behind bars or on probation/parole, then they are a free citizen and retain their inalienable natural Rights.
     
  16. el_jewapo

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    I don't agree with it. If someone has paid their debt to society and we trust them to walk among us, they should have the same rights we have. If they can't be trusted with a gun, why do we trust them at all? Strong supporters of the second amendment should know better than anybody that it's stupid. How can you claim with a straight face that guns don't kill people, they're inanimate objects, etc, etc... and turn around and say this person can't be trusted with a gun? If he can't be trusted with a gun, lock his ass back up because there are thousands of other ways for him to kill people.

    I've got a friend that got into some trouble when he was 18 years old and got a felony. He's a completely different person now in his early 30's. I really hate it for him that he's tainted by his actions when he was a kid. He's smarter, more honest and responsible than 95% of other people I know, and yet he doesn't have the right to vote or defend his family.
     
  17. OctoberRust

    OctoberRust Anti-Federalist

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    Guns for every free man and woman that's not in prison/jail.

    If you don't pay taxes, you shouldn't vote. Felon or not.
     
  18. el_jewapo

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    That's it.
     
  19. Blast

    Blast 'nuff said

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    Some states have no such path. The Federal government has a path on paper, but the process is unfunded so there is no path other than Presidential pardon (so there is no path).

    Inalienable.... Right.
     
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