Do You Agree With Constitutional Carry? 11 States Now Have It.

Discussion in 'Carry Issues' started by Travelinman, Jul 11, 2019.

  1. Travelinman

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    11 states now have Constitutional Carry. No license of any kind required.

    If you are of age with no criminal or mental charges/ restraints against you.

    Foreigners included. Thoughts on the positive and negatives of over 1/5 of America.
     
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  2. reniram

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    Yes. I thought it was 13 states though. Some states like ID and WY restrict it to state residents.
     
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  3. cowboy1964

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    Current total is 15 I think with Oklahoma coming in November. It's definitely spreading.

    In the states of Idaho, North Dakota, and Wyoming, permitless carry is only allowed for residents.
     
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    Is that restriction worded clearly in their statutes?
     
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    I'm watching out of interest. I voted undecided because I don't know all the details. In other words, is there a background check? If not, how do they know if there are any charges against the person. Lastly, if there IS indeed a background check, I suppose it isn't constitutional anymore. :headscratch:
     
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    It would have to be.
     
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  7. reniram

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    AFAIK ID and WY recognize carry permits from all other states, don't know about ND. MT is permitless outside city limits - don't know if that applies to all or only MT residents.
     
  8. Travelinman

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    :flag:My 11 does not include states that require non residents to have a license for concealed carry.

    I know there are more "pure" states on the way! Can we get to 50!? by 2100?:flag:
     
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    Absolutely, with zero infringement.
     
  10. reniram

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    Well there is a background check when you buy a gun from any FFL. The rationale behind constitutional carry is that if you can legally own a gun, that you can legally carry it without a separate carry permit. IIRC all constitutional carry states with the exception of VT still have state carry permits which you can apply for if desired.
     
  11. Bruce M

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    I like it when states decide what they want to do based on the majority of the state or at least what the legislature feels is the majority or the part of the electorate that are most likely to reelect them.
     
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    OK, got it. There are some states like NV where open carry is OK without a license, but concealed carry requires a license.
     
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    Got it.....thank you. I'm changing my vote to "yes"

    edit: doesn't look like I can change it.
     
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  14. reniram

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    Yes, that's what the Tenth Amendment is all about. But they are not allowed to circumvent the United States Constitution, including the Bill Of Rights.
     
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  15. Gray Dood

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    I vote yes.

    We almost got it done in Louisiana. Bill got thru both houses of legislature but vetoed by new Dem Governor Edwards. Mainly due to influence from Dem NOPD Chief, NO Mayor, and other Dem officials.

    Ass hat.

    Hoping he loses in 2020 and I think we'll get it then.
     
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    I have mixed emotions on this one. I love the idea that anyone might have a gun, which greatly increases the penalty for a BG guessing wrong.

    On the other hand, when I attended the day long class here to get my Enhanced Carry Permit and I saw all the people who came carrying and who were completely incompetent from not only a shooting standpoint, but also a basic safe gun handling, it really gave me pause.

    The trainers worked their fannies off explaining the legalities of using s gun for self defense and then when they took them out shooting, holy cow, I was surprised nobody got shot.

    So put me down for not sure.

    For me it is kind of a philosophical versus practical thing. If I were king, I would probably require every citizen to attend a week long gun training course. :)
     
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    Yep to Constitutional Carry. I try not let "perfect" and "good" be enemies of each other though.

    As a nation, we have seen VAST improvements to carry rights over the last 30 or so years. I'd love my own state to join the trend. What I have is pretty darn good with a pretty low bar. I can live with that as we work toward perfect.

    :cool:
     
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    sciolist Token Progressive Sanctimonious Fudd

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    I do, and that doesn't mean I don't think people who carry guns should be highly proficient.

    If government has to have a part in this, it would help to stop vilifying guns and spreading misinformation about them. Maybe government could start promoting the legitimate, lawful use of firearms and encourage people to develop proficiency with them in the interest of the common good.

    Seems like that's more in keeping with our traditional values.
     
  20. Travelinman

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    You are so right. NO gun control law has EVER had a positive affect. All 22, 000 would be repealed STAT in a normal world.