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do we need mandatory training to obtain firearms??

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by dvrdwn72, Dec 23, 2012.

  1. hogfish

    hogfish Señor Member

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    Right off the bat, I most definitely would be against the IQ Test idea. You wouldn't want what would likely be mostly yankees only owning firearms. :winkie:
     
  2. dvrdwn72

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    :rofl: BUT, I must say I left dirty jersey 20 years ago for the free south. I do believe there is more common sense down here.:whistling:
     

  3. RonS

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    IMHO, if you are not intelligent or responsible enough to own a firearm you aren't fit to procreate, vote or drive.
     
  4. UtahIrishman

    UtahIrishman BLR Silver Member

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    It shouldn't be mandatory but I would strongly urge everyone to do so.
     
  5. dvrdwn72

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    Now, I must admit I firmly believe if we removed the warning labels from everything, society will eventually fix itself.:whistling:
     
  6. bobtheelf

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    If I worked in a gun shop, I would just as a matter of good practice make sure all my customers knew how to handle a gun safely. I just think it's the right thing to do.
     
  7. TheExplorer

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    If it wasn't a constitutional right, I'd say we should, just like a driver's license. However it is, so we should not.
     
  8. kenpoprofessor

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    Mrs Brady, is that you? :wow:

    Have a great gun carryin' Kenpo day

    Clyde
     
  9. .45Super-Man

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    Well, how many regulations and contingencies does it take to alter the definition of your freedom and liberty?
     
  10. countrygun

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    It wouldn't have any effect on the crimes that catch attention and as a safety issue I don't see a major problem mandatory training would fix. My LGS doe as excellent job on that without being regulated and, again, I can't find the problem this would solve.
     
  11. Simpleman71

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    I took a basic and advance concealed carry course. Not only does it help with weapon proficiency, they keep me updated on local and state carry laws. I also shoot uspsa and train at a local outdoor range 3 times a month. I have seen some people handling firearms at ranges that have no business in doing so. Not everyone is cut out to handle the responsibility to conceal carry a deadly weapon.
     
  12. spork

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    Take a test or a government approved class in order to access and practice my constitutional rights?

    No, absolutely not.
     
  13. Bren

    Bren NRA Life Member

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    We haven't needed any since they were invented and the objections the liberals have to them are based on criminals and crazies, so I don't really see the point in a self-imposed and unnecessary regulation of our own.

    As you said, people are stupid - a class isn't going to help.
     
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  14. Atlas

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    "Mandatory training.."
    Do you mean that if I don't receive the training I cannot own a gun?


    What part do you not understand of:

    "it's my fundamental right to own a firearm, a right enumerated in and protected by the Constitution of the United States" ?














    ....... where the hell do these people come from, anyway???
     
  15. RussP

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    I'm just gonna ask one question, and not post any replies. I've already been involved in another scrum over basically this same topic, so I really am not interested in arguing anymore.

    If anti-gun legislation is on the horizon, and it's something we absolutely can't avoid, is there any compromises we should consider, rather than getting absolutely crushed?

    My thought is that our elected officials are getting pounded with phone calls, e-mails and letters demanding anti-gun legislation, from folks that normally don't care one way or another about gun-control, but are very upset by what happened in CT.

    It's possible that if we could find a compromise that settles-down all those people that are upset over the Sandy Hook shooting, the anti-gun legislators would lose their political momentum, and therefore their ability to pass really restrictive anti-gun legislation.

    Any ideas on possible compromises that would calm down all those folks that are raising cane with their elected representatives? Just to avoid any truly damaging anti-gun legislation?

    A lesser of two evils so to speak?

    I have this mental image of gun-control debates on the House and Senate floors, and the anti-gunners bringing in Mothers and Fathers of the children that were killed at Sandy Hook to support their anti-gun legislation.

    That would be really bad.
     
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  17. Atlas

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    ANY taxation or permit requirement serves legally to re-define your 2a-protected RIGHT to keep and bear arms as a privilege.

    Do you understand what that means?
    A privilege is the legal opposite of a right.

    An activity, such as owning firearms, cannot be both a fundamental individual right and be a privilege.
    It's one or it's the other.

    If the state can impose control over an activity, any control such as imposing a tax, or requiring a license or permit, then that activity is, at law, a privilege.


    I have a RIGHT to own firearms.
    I will not compromise that right.
     
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  18. RussP

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    M&P15T, that is way off the topic of this thread.

    Let's confine that discussion to its original thread
    Gun show loop hole?? also here in GNG.

    Do not troll and hijack another thread on a totally different topic.
     
  19. eagle359

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    May I offer this idea. You go through a reasonable national training course. At the end you get a "purchasing card" that allows you to make a purchase without a NICS check and it serves as a national carry permit that ALL states and CITIES must honor.
     
  20. Atlas

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    Sure, as long as completion of that training course is not a legal requirement to my purchasing or owning a firearm.