Do not count on the "police" in California

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  1. vikingsoftpaw

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  2. Wayward Son

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    Is that ebonics?
     

  3. Wayward Son

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    So the left is going to kick their own ass?
     
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    1) Does anyone know where that was filmed? Looks like Sacramento, CA, right in front of the state capitol! Buildings look familiar...if so, it's OLD as that vid was clearly filmed in spring or summer.

    2) Play stupid games, win stupid prizes; that guy was looking for trouble. There were police already deployed there in full riot gear; hardly a good place to go make a political point. I'd submit that if you value your physical safety, if you see police deployed somewhere, and you're not also LEO, you should probably leave.

    Kind of a pointless post & video...
     
  5. "Doc" Cavalry

    "Doc" Cavalry MAJ (USA Ret.)

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    Look brother, the fact that you post here makes us friends by default.

    There is another post in this thread that shows the police response. My personal opinion is that the "cops" jumped in only after he had a little ass whoopin, by design. I'm pro-police. I follow the laws. I pay my taxes, I don't speed, I wait until I feel the car rock back before proceeding through a stop sign. I could go on and on, but let's just agree that I consider myself one of the good guys.


    Let's be real, the "ca cops" were 15 feet away, they waited until he was pulled into the crowd and ground stomped before they moved in. I'd like to see his leg X-rays, he likely has fibular fractures and possibly even a compartment syndrome from the lower leg crush injuries. Maybe you don't know how they treat those.
    They literally have to cut the muscular compartment open to save the muscle. It's an ugly thing.

    Do a google image search for "fasciotomy"


    Yes, getting your leg stomped on can lead to this.

    Sorry, I think the "cops" there waited until he got taught a lesson.

    The lesson I learned from that, and San Jose, is that I will not expect a Kalifornia cop to protect conservatives.

    This type of response and the message it sends does not end well for anyone. What would have happened if he fired 8 rounds into the mob.

    In Texas he would have been GTG.
     

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  6. ChuteTheMall

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    And of course, Berkeley.
     
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  8. Taz

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    No he would not have been. Ever been to Austin, Houston, San Antonio. Liberal cities run by the same liberal mentality as Ca. Maybe in some parts of TX he would have been OK, but then I'd bet the same could be said of many rural Ca areas. Cant believe I'm actually defending Ca.

    If a tree falls and nobody hears/sees it. Does anyone give a hoot? These AntiFa morons are attention whores. If nobody shows up to protest their protests how could they get attention? People need to allow these guys to make asses of themselves by destroying cities that tolerate their behavior. If they destroy Berkley again and no counter protestors are there then there is ABSOLUTELY no question that they are violent terrorist and communities will have no excuses for NOT arresting them.

    What to do if you fin yourself in a protest. Leave PERIOD.
     
  9. "Doc" Cavalry

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    I'd avoid the problem as much as problem. I'd like to see the violent and destructive rioters spend all 8 years of Trump's potential time as president behind bars. It's then a win-win situation.
     
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    I went to Handgun law.us and could not find such a statute.
    Can you post it?
     
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    The US Supreme Court has ruled that a law enforcement officer has
    No legal obligation to protect citizens.
    So, no not "protecting" will not get the city sued.
     
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    Looks like they took action to me. They aren't personal bodyguards especially in
    a large disturbance like that one.


    More at above link:
     
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    Looks like they refused to let him pass, and waited until he got pulled into the crowd and ground stomped a little before they started to get involved. I didn't see any effort to detain the attackers either.

    I watched the same hands off approach in the videos from San Jose and Berkeley.

    I'll avoid trouble areas, and keep carrying my Spare mags as usual.
     
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    Doc, I couldn't see the full number of police officers or protesters.
    Normally, arrest teams make arrests and the line officers hold the line.
    If they were too spread out, they run the risk of the mob breaking through or
    overwhelming the police, if the police break ranks to come to the aid of a protester.
    That is probably why they waited a few seconds before stopping the assault.

    They may have also lacked the manpower to make several arrests and
    continue to hold their positions. As a retired military officer, you know full well
    that a lack of combat power hinders a commander's options. Tough choices
    have to be made in a compressed time frame.

    I don't think we have enough information to say whether more or less could
    have been done by the officers at the scene. We have no idea what rules of
    engagement they were issued.

    Now, I do agree that political leaders, police chiefs, sheriffs, and university
    presidents have let these protesters run amuck for this election cycle and
    beyond. They need to be held accountable.
     
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    Possible. But I've just seen too many reports and videos of police taking a soft approach to violence and destruction, especially when conservatives are the target.

    I don't have any trust in Kalifornia or their style of policing.
     
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    Cool. Nothing mentioned about piss filled balloons.
     
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    As a resident of the great state of Alabama, I have to ask.

    In this hypothetical situation, what is the correct course of action?

    I'm driving home from work, with my carry gun in my pocket, just as my pistol permit allows. I get off the interstate, onto a local state road, and find there is a protest in action. I'm unable to turn around, unable to get away from this situation with my vehicle. Suddenly my windshield is cracked with a rock or brick, and someone hits the passenger window with a pipe repeatedly, until the glass caves in. At that point, someone unlocks and opens the passenger side door.

    In my estimation, I have just cause to defend my life, and have a reasonable expectation their intentions are not good.

    However, by the law you stated, I am in violation. Let's suppose there was actually a permit issued by a municipality for this protest.

    Is this limited to peaceful protest, or has this protest devolved into a riot?

    Or will this come down to a verdict from a jury?
     
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    God forgive me, but I was thinking as soon as I saw her throw a punch, an elbow or forearm to the nose would've followed shortly.
     
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    Well, it looked like the police intervened after the battery. I fault the guy too. You're mouthing off in an agitated crowd and they start physical contact and you just sit there like a wuss...'are you going to doing anything'. Grow a pair! Personally, I have better things to do then hang out in the street and argue with a bunch of panty waste liberals.
     
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    I would like to think in Alabama, the two guys that committed the assault and battery would've been arrested on the spot.