Do I qualify?

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  1. citationzx12r

    citationzx12r

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    I recently bought a Glock 22 that I intend to use for GSSF and I need to see if it will qualify.

    It has TriJicon Sights, a Stainless Steel Guide Rod and a 3lbs Fulcrum Trigger.

    Will this be allowed? if Not what do I need to do to make it legal?

    I would also like to shoot IDPA will it be allowed?

    Thanks for your Help
     
  2. 9mmXRAY

    9mmXRAY IDPA MW2 GSSF

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    If your looking to shoot say SSP(Stock Service Pistol) IDPA your going to need a stock or legal polymer guiderod/spring. Also all stock glock parts including your trigger and its connector. 100% stock glock pretty much if glock didn't make it its probably Illegal except for Jager polymer guiderods that I know of.

    If your looking to shoot GSSF Amateur Civilian your going to need the same 100% glock stockness from above or your going to end up shooing Unlimited with the Open and Race glocks... Red dot sights and threaded barrel and compensators.

    Those sights you have are legal for anything really I think.

    Now for (Enhanced Service Pistol) ESP IDPA I think your gun is good to go maybe? I'll just paste the section from the rulebook.

    Now remember if you shoot IDPA you shoot 1 division unlike GSSF you can shoot multiple in one day.

    IDPA Enhanced Service Pistol Handguns permitted for use in this division must:
    A. Be semi-automatic.
    B. Be 9mm (9x19) or larger caliber.
    C. Have a maximum unloaded weight of 43 oz., including an
    empty magazine.
    D. Fit in the IDPA gun test box measuring 8 ¾” x 6” x 1 5/8.”
    with an empty magazine inserted.
    E. Be loaded to the division capacity of ten (10) rounds in the
    magazine plus one (1) round in the chamber. Should division
    capacity not be achievable because of lower magazine
    capacity, load should be to maximum mechanical capacity of
    magazine plus one (1) round in the chamber. Competitors
    must use the same capacity magazines through out the
    competition (Example: if you start with a 9 round magazine,
    you must use that capacity magazine throughout the match).
    Pistols approved for SSP may also be used in ESP and CDP
    depending upon caliber, even if the pistol in question has a fulllength
    dust cover. However, should the pistol in question have a
    modification that removes it from SSP, it must meet all other
    division criteria for ESP or CDP, again depending upon caliber.

    PERMITTED Modifications (
    Inclusive list):

    1. Sights to another notch and post type (see “sights” in
    glossary for further information).
    2. Grips (no weighted grips; see “weighted grips” in glossary
    for further details).
    3. Internal accuracy work (includes: replacement of the barrel
    with one of factory configuration, the use of Accu-Rails, the
    use of Briley Bushings).
    4. Internal reliability work.
    5. Checker frontstrap and backstrap.
    6. Checker or square and checker trigger guard.
    7. Cosmetic checkering/serrating.
    8. Extended thumb (may be ambidextrous) and Beavertail grip
    safeties.
    9. Extended magazine release (button may not be oversize in
    diameter or protrude more than .2” out from the frame).
    10. Factory installed cone style barrels on pistols with a barrel
    length of 4.2” or less.
    11. Full length guide rod manufactured of material that is no
    heavier than common steel.
    12. Hammer and other trigger action parts to enhance trigger
    pull (includes the use of over travel stop).
    13. Beveled magazine well and add-on well extensions.

    14. Custom finishes.

     
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    citationzx12r

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    So the sights are good and everything else must be put back to factory?
     
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    9mmXRAY IDPA MW2 GSSF

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    Pretty much if your just starting out I would say yes and no lol... but then again just call or email the match director of where you intend to shoot IDPA... he's going to say just show up because non members can shoot in IDPA at most local events. But with that gun like it is now its basically without me looking at it and taking it apart... legal for IDPA ESP and GSSF Unlimited. Look at my avatar picture... thats an Unlimited Glock 17...

    Now some of the pistol as it is now is also legal for GSSF competition division probably only the guiderod/spring.. maybe the trigger would take a peek in the rulebook or another qualified GSSF member to answer better on that fulcrum trigger. I use the Glock factory (-) minus trigger connector for everything almost.
     
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    citationzx12r

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    To use your 22 in Amateur Civilian in a GSSF match you'll have to remove/replace the stainless guide rod and fulcrum trigger thingy.

    In GSSF it must be made by Glock to be legal. The only thing that doesn't need to be Glock are the sights.
     
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    As stated above, the sights are OK but the recoil rod assembly and trigger must be returned to stock Glock factory parts if you wish to shoot in any GSSF category other that Masters/Unlimited. GSSF competition is designed for stock, out of the box Glocks.
     
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    DannyR Moderator Millennium Member

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    Citation,

    You have received sound advice. Your pistol is welcome as is, but only in the Masters/Unlimited category. Now let me tell you something about tricked out Glocks. The Masters of GSSF have proven time and time again that they can score with a stock Glock just as well as with a full race Glock. Their secret is simple: practice with a purpose.

    GSSF is designed to be a simple to compete in match, and is not an accessory race. You may choose any notch & post design sights, even fiber optics. You may add grip sleeves or grip tape. You may use any Glock manufactured part, but you really don't need to as in GSSF there is no need for extended mag releases or extended slide stop levers. Many Masters have switched back to stock connectors because they have a quicker trigger reset than the "-" connectors.

    There is one Glock made accessory that you may not use in the stock categories, and that is the Glock tactical rail mounted light.

    Return your Glock to stock and join in the fun of GSSF competition.
     
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    citationzx12r

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    Thank You all. That is one thing that I love about Glocks, They are so easy to change around. Stock here I come and then to GSSF.

    Happy Shooting

    "In Glock We Trust"