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Do I have a really big problem????

Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by js415, Jan 9, 2010.

  1. js415

    js415

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    A while back I bought a like new, but used, G17 from an old gentleman here in Georgia.

    He said he bought it back about 15 years ago when Glock "was real popular".

    Serial number indicates it was made around 1995, so his story seems to be about right.

    I shot it occasionally, and then put it away.

    I just joined the GSSF last month, and decided this would be a good gun for that purpose.

    Got the gun out and went to the range, and shot it a good bit a few weeks ago. Took it back out today and shot it several hundred more times.

    I get home this afternoon, and decide to give it a really good scrubbing. In the course of cleaning, I discover that the serial number plate on the frame is missing. I have no idea if it came off recently, or if it was never there.

    I think it was, but could not swear to it. It does not look like an item that could just "pop" off.

    What sort of problems do I have now?

    Thanks


    UPDATE INFO>>>>>>>>

    Spoke to Glock this morning and was advised that they "might" be able to help with a new frame, IF the local Sheriff's Office could validate that the frame had been turned in and destroyed.

    Went by the Sheriff's office today, spoke to a contact I have there, and turned in the frame. Got a report, receipt, and all associated paperwork. The Sheriffs Office is going to work with Glock and see if they can get me a new or re-branded used frame.

    I will update when I hear back from Glock tomorrow.

    I might have a like new Gen 2 frame for sale soon!!!


    Thanks
     
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  2. faawrenchbndr

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    I think that is a very big problem.
    I think I would contact Glock and see what they can do.
     

  3. Fire_Medic

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    Yes that's a problem, being that the "FRAME" is what is registered and considered the firearm.

    You basically have a gun with no serial #. I don't see how Glock would remedy this as you bought this used third party and they have no clue if that is the lower that came with the slide or not.

    :faint:
     
  4. Convert

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    Was this a private party sale, or did you buy it through an FFL? I wouldn't think that it's a huge concern, given the serial number is also stamped on the slide and barrel. However, according to the BATFE, the frame is the firearm. Without the serial #, that could pose some issues. You can always call Glock and see what they say, maybe they could replace the plate? Another option would be to contact your local PD or Sheriff's Office and have them run a serial check.
     
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    It was a private sale.

    Not even sure if I have the info from the fellow I bought it from.

    I might, but not sure. If I had that info, I wonder if it would make a difference?
     
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    Fire_Medic Polymer Butcher CLM

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    The issue here is no one knows if that's the original frame. Even if he has a bill of sale, the big question everyone will ask is why doesn't the frame have a serial #?

    This is just as if someone had filed the serial number off of a metal frame gun.

    Yes there's a serial number on the slide and barrel, but who's to say that slide and barrel belong to that frame.
     
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    What you are in possession of is a federal crime according the gun control act.

    Marking Requirements
    The law also required that all newly-manufactured firearms produced by licensed manufacturers in the United States and imported into the United States bear a serial number. Firearms manufactured prior to the Gun Control Act remain exempt from the serial number requirement. Defacement or removal of the serial number (if present) is a felony offense.

    Whether you removed or not would not mean anything to the fed's in my opinion.
     
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    So is it normal to have the # on a plate and not stamped in the frame?
     
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    If he didn't deface or remove it, he's committed no crime. I'd give Glock a call and ask them about it, but I wouldn't lose sleep over it.
     
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    Receiving stolen property is a crime...whether you stole it or not is irrelevant. whether you knew it was stolen or not is irrelevant too...
     
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    +1000

    If the ATF were to catch you with an unregistered SBR for example that a friend gave you I guarantee you will not just claim "I didn't do it" and walk away. No way, no how...
     
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    How many of those giving legal advice are attorneys?
     
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    I just called a family member who is a judge, does that count?
     
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    call glock and tell them your plate fell off.
     
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    You don't have to be an attorney to understand something this blatantly obvious... :upeyes:
     
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    I would delete all my posts on GT, shred my hard drive, and never leave home again. LOL
     
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    The law always requires that the person accused had the intention to violate the law. That is why we have juries. The judge that was contacted must be a member of the AKC or something not the BAR. Anyway send the gun to Glock they will fix it for you.
     
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    Call Glock, stop posting. Hope mods lock/delete thead. :stop:
     
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    Wrap your head in foil until Glock opens on Monday. Big bad government is watching you :whistling:
     
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    It's all common knowledge and common sense.


    OP,
    Contact Glock Monday morning, explain what happened.
    I would suggest you NOT take it to a range or anything until
    Glock has resolved this ISSUE.