Distinguished Warfare Medal for drone pilots?

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  1. GreenDrake

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    Just one more way the military is getting softer.
     
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    Sorry, should have searched before the JAMBOG
     
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    Its a lot less stressful to fly an aircraft where the results of either mechanical malfunction or Enemy Fire cant cause you to have to park your tumbling ball of metal in a field, have your burned and broken body dragged from it, be stripped and beaten by a crowd of 12th century goat herders turned "freedom fighters" and then either killed or worse.

    Not saying they dont have a pivotal part to play in the stack as a sensor platform.... But when this medal somehow outrankes even an Air Medal with V or for god sakes a Bronze Star with V.... Yeah something is ****ing wrong.
     
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    Kingarthurhk Isaiah 53:4-9

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    Can you play a video game?
     
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    Kingarthurhk Isaiah 53:4-9

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    Oh, come one now. You know a bunch of them are going to claim PTSD.
     
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    Finally, a medal for jelly-belly game geeks.

    When drone pilots high-five each other and shout "I feel the need......the NEED FOR SPEED!!", do they mean Red Bull?
     
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    Brilliant.
     
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    I have to agree. A serious medal for sitting in AC trailer/building flying by computer. Yep it takes skills, training, they are important to effort. ....

    I remember my wife saying a civilian airline had to land on a military base (I forget when/why) and one group got medals "for making sandwiches for pass" Not the ATC who gave permission, got things going in emergency, Not safety/security folks, Not even EMS who made sure everyone was ok. BUT the folks who made sandwiches got medal...

    I heard a few folks complain about Pilots. "they sleep in real beds, have breakfast, mission brief, fly mission, home for late dinner, round of golf, supper and movie/dance then next day" (I realize that seldom is close but impression some have) Here the impression is "they play vidio games" :0
    A medal is not bad idea. This one just sounds too dang "impressive" for level of risk. (ok a papercut is.....)
     
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    I have problems with an award of that high a standing, where there is no way the person receiving it could possibly have experienced any personally peril.

    He may significantly contribute to a battlefield success, but how is his contribution any different, or more important, than the guys loading out stores on tactical aircraft, or pulling emergency maintenance on military vehicles and aircraft, to support dangerous missions.

    sorry, this sounds like a cheap medal to me.
     
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    Don't forget, the guys flying these drones are stateside, NOT overseas. They have a local operator that takes the drones off and lands them, but the mission specialist (shooters) are over here in the deserts of the USA.......so really? A medal? Wtf for?
     
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    As a pilot and current ALO, I disagree with the weight of the medal, but.....The UAV pilots over here have gotten rid of more %$#$bags than the entire Brigade I'm attached to, and more than the fighter squadrons as well. As much as I like to make fun of them it's all in good fun, it irritates me when people that think it's a video game try and pile on.

    Also, while they aren't physically at risk, every weapons employment puts their career at risk due to the political nature of this fight. They can do everything right and stick get kicked in the junk if an unknown civilian enters the frag. The bottom line is, they are pulling the trigger and that shouldn't be taken lightly.
     
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    I've seen several of my Airforce buddies post this on facebook...




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    What level of prestige do you need to unlock this medal?
     
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    Well, to be fair, it IS a video game.


    UAV operators have no skin in the game.

    That I can fly dozens of the biggest air-assualts in OIF history, and get a single air medal for, and some desk jockey, wearing A2CU's in a AC'd conex box, back in America gets a DWM for clicking fire, and pickling off a hellfire at a target 6,000 miles away, that someone else scheduled him to be flying near, in an airframe he didn't take off, or even fly to the target zone, just scrolled around a track ball looking at feeds is a little loony.

    It really cracks me up when they refer to each other as "pilots" or act indigent when called out by non pilot aviators of other airframes. :rofl:
     
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    Times are changing, I'm glad they're recognizing people who don't put boots on the ground in the combat zone. I can't comment on the weight of it though, since I'm not as well versed as some of you are. But, like I said, it's nice to know people are being recognized. Just think, this might be where our military is headed in the future, which would be a good thing, because being able to maintain the same level of control, with less boots on the ground and fewer fatalities would be great.
     
  20. G19Tony

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    Well put. It could be said that every missile has a courts martial attached to it.