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That's it right there. Those of us who don't get the EXPERIMENTAL vaccine don't judge those that do get the vaccine.
Well that's how it should work, but that's certainly not always the case or we wouldn't have threads like this.
 
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The aborted baby used to create the cell lines that are used in the Johnson and Johnson vaccine was aborted in 1985, not the 1970s.


"Johnson & Johnson used a human fetal cell line called PER.C6, developed from the retinal cells of an 18-week-old fetus aborted in 1985 in its production and manufacturing stages."


Source: Fact Check-Johnson & Johnson’s COVID-19 vaccine does not contain aborted fetal cells




However, another source claims that cells from 2 different aborted babies were used to create the cell lines used in the Johnson and Johnson vaccine. According to this source, one of the babies was aborted in 1985 and the other was aborted in 1973:


"Many people on the internet have been asking if fetal cell lines have been used in the COVID-19 vaccines.
With the recent approval of the J&J vaccine, there's a new twist on how those cells contributed to the latest tool in the fight against the pandemic.
Fetal cell lines were first introduced more than 50 years ago. For the lines involved in the COVID-19 vaccines, they started with two aborted fetuses in 1973 and 1985.

A researcher in the Netherlands obtained these cells, according to Casanova. It's currently unknown how or why he did so."


Source: VERIFY: Yes, fetal cell lines were used in the development of Johnson & Johnson's COVID-19 vaccine






Reportedly, both the 1973 and 1985 abortions were elective abortions, NOT done to save the mother's life.



"When testing whether their vaccines work, both Pfizer and Moderna used fetal cell lines derived from fetal tissue taken from elective abortions in the 1970s and 1980s, according to James Lawler, an infectious-disease specialist at Nebraska Medicine. They did not use the lines during the development or production phases, so they are not inside the injection, Lawler said. In creating its vaccine, Johnson & Johnson used cells that are descended from tissue taken from a 1985 elective abortion."



Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/03/02/archdiocese-new-orleans-johnson-vaccine/
how does one get an elective abortion in 1974 in Holland where it is illegal?
 

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Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Side effects: infertility, blood-clotting (coagulopathy), and immune escape.

Surely, this so called "scientist" is just another kook with a conspiracy theory.
Not so: Dr.Dr. Janci Chunn Lindsay has doctorate in biochemistry and molecular biology from the University of Texas, and has over 30 years of scientific experience, primarily in toxicology and mechanistic biology.

"We could potentially sterilize an entire generation"

All this angst based on ONE person? I did a study on 15 people who smoked cigarettes all their lives yet none got lung cancer so smoking is OK..
 

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Vaccines take years to develop, not months. What is happening now is a terribly premature rollout driven by politics, using the masses as test subjects. Only a fool would voluntarily choose vaccination.

I will wait a few years, and if at that time I can reasonably conclude that the vaccine is safe and that I benefit from taking it, I will consider doing so. Otherwise, I will remain unvaccinated.
Time to get a microbiology refresher. "Years to develop" not even close.
 

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Time to get a microbiology refresher. "Years to develop" not even close.
Microbiology isn't my field of expertise. So how long does it take?

And what of the process described in the link below? Is this not accurate? If microbiology is your field of expertise, please educate me.

 

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Microbiology isn't my field of expertise. So how long does it take?

And what of the process described in the link below? Is this not accurate? If microbiology is your field of expertise, please educate me.

Asian flu 1957-58-
The microbiologist Maurice Hilleman was alarmed by pictures of those affected by the virus in Hong Kong that were published in The New York Times. He obtained samples of the virus from a US Navy doctor in Japan. The Public Health Service released the virus cultures to vaccine manufacturers on 12 May 1957, and a vaccine entered trials at Fort Ord on 26 July and Lowry Air Force Base on 29 July.
The number of deaths peaked the week ending 17 October, with 600 reported in England and Wales. The vaccine was available in the same month in the United Kingdom. Although it was initially available only in limited quantities, its rapid deployment helped contain the pandemic. Hilleman's vaccine is believed to have saved hundreds of thousands of lives. Some predicted that the U.S. death toll would have reached 1 million without the vaccine that Hilleman called for.

Hong Kong flu 1968-69-
"Hong Kong strain, that had caused widespread illness in Hong Kong. They rushed to manufacture a vaccine from the new flu strain. In four months, Merck had manufactured more than nine million doses of vaccine."
 

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They can spend years testing a new vaccine which I forgot. Flu vaccine must be tested and produced in huge quantities for the next years flu season.
So, yes, they can take years testing. When there's an active threat like covid-19 too many people would die waiting years. A new method of gene splicing was developed and was sitting on the shelf until now. It has been a life saver (No, not the candy with the hole in the middle) and still nearly 6 million people have died in the US alone. The death rate has fallen rapidly after the highest risk people were vaxed. There are still hold outs, and they will be missed.
 
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They can spend years testing a new vaccine which I forgot. Flu vaccine must be tested and produced in huge quantities for the next years flu season.
So, yes, they can take years testing. When there's an active threat like covid-19 too many people would die waiting years. A new method of gene splicing was developed and was sitting on the shelf until now. It has been a life saver (No, not the candy with the hole in the middle) and still nearly 6 million people have died in the US alone. The death rate has fallen rapidly after the highest risk people were vaxed. There are still hold outs, and they will be missed.
Clearly I must have missed part of the conversation. 6 million have died of what, over what period of time?
 

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They seem to be mostly arguing against vaccinating kids and pregnant women.
 

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Clearly I must have missed part of the conversation. 6 million have died of what, over what period of time?
I blame lack of coffee for the error. CDC says 577,000. Sorry.
 
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What? Are you saying memes and posts forwarded from Facebook aren't the same as double blind, peer reviewed data published in academic journals?
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No!

Those academic "studies" are propaganda funded by George Soros and Bill Gates. The goal is socialist mind control You can't believe any of it. Doctors, scientist, public health officials, all are in a vast conspiracy to take away your medical freedom and make you serve the socialist state.

I get my medical advice from patriotic sources I can trust: Donald Trump, Ron Desantis, Greg Abbott, and One America News.
 

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No!

Those academic "studies" are propaganda funded by George Soros and Bill Gates. The goal is socialist mind control You can't believe any of it. Doctors, scientist, public health officials, all are in a vast conspiracy to take away your medical freedom and make you serve the socialist state.

I get my medical advice from patriotic sources I can trust: Donald Trump, Ron Desantis, Greg Abbott, and One America News.
 

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