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Did I commit a faux pas?

Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by crazyasian1, Jan 22, 2011.

  1. crazyasian1

    crazyasian1

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    I'm asking because my knowledge of 1911 etiquette amounts to about zero... So I was at the range yesterday and saw a nice Nighthawk in the rental counter so never having handled a 1911 before, I asked to get my hands around it. I'm checking it out getting a feel for it, then I pull the slide release and the slide shoots home, the guy jumps and says WHOAH, whoah whoah... you cant let a 1911 slide shoot home unless there's a magazine in!! Ummm.. ok, sorry... Thoughts?
     
  2. drc767

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    Yes.....a major faux pas!! Don't drop the slide on an empty chamber on a 1911. Having a mag in it or not is not the issue...the empty chamber is. Accidents happen, but don't make a habit of it.....especially if the gun is not yours.
     
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  3. Rinspeed

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    Doing it on your own 1911 is one thing doing it on someone elses is just plain stupid, sorry. It's kind of like slamming your car door shut very hard. Once in a while won't cause any problems but it's just not a good idea.
     
  4. rsxr22

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    I agree with the above comments. The only problem is for the life of me, what issues does this cause? Its been so long since Ive heard why.... Its just been standard practice for a number of years not to do it.
     
  5. drc767

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    It can hurt the extractor, trigger job and breach face for starters...
     
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    "The jarring of the slide slamming down on an empty chamber can cause the hammer to follow and the sear nose to crash into the hammer hooks. Your trigger job will last longer if you ease the slide down. Further, the lower lugs on a match fit barrel take a lot of impact when they contact the slide stop, and without the buffering effect of the round feeding into the chamber, you increase wear on your barrel by slamming the slide on an empty chamber. It's not the end of the world if the slide drops on an empty chamber, but it's not a good habit to develop either. It is the sign of an amateur 1911 handler."

    http://10-8performance.com/1911_Users_Guide.html
     
  7. Kegs

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    Those are nice - and I mean NIIIIICCE guns. It would be better to ask how to handle it if you are not familiar with it.
     
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    They're very delicate works of art...velvet gloves are recommended.
     
  9. JoshuaC

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    It's amazing how long the 1911 has survived with this glaring "flaw".
     
  10. MD357

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    Where's Phonecop when you need him?
     
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    The 1911 after 100 years of selective breeding:
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  12. Dalton Wayne

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    :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
  13. CAcop

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    From what I understand this became a faux pas because when people started pushing the 1911 from a service gun to a tuned gun it became more fragile or less tolerant of service style treatment. It could also be total bull**** from gunsmiths back in the day that pushed the 1911 design too far and needed an excuse for why things weren't working on expensive guns.

    Now it applies to every 1911.

    It reminds me of how people love to talk up how great Glock's Tennifer finish is and that Glock don't rust. Yes it is a very nice protective coating however they do rust. Some of my coworkers have proved that. Yet everybody will still talk like there are magic fairies embedded into the steel of a Glock keeping rust away.
     
  14. GeorgiaRedfish

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    If i had something of someone's that cost 2k I would ask permission to touch and than be very gently.
     
  15. JoshuaC

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    :rofl:
     
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    It's only an issue to the 'pretty 1911' crowd.
     
  17. kirgi08

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    Must you.'08. :upeyes:


    I'd have thought that a NH would never be a "rental". :wow:
     
  18. Ruggles

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    As posted it is not something doing a few times will cause any damage but not something you would want to do repeatably for giggles. I imagine the life of a rental gun in pretty rough so I doubt you were the 1st to do it. :wavey:

    A well built 1911 is plenty tough enough to stand a little abuse :)
     
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    Yeah, you did step in it a little. Let's face it though...this is a rental gun; not a family heirloom. I am sure the gun gets a lot worse treatment when it is rented. Plus, it is not like you did it just to be a jerk. You made a small mistake. Nothing to lose any sleep over. :)