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Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by BLau, Jun 22, 2012.

  1. BLau

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    I was in Starbucks this morning and saw 4 agents getting teas before breaking up a counterfeit ring. Two carried Sig 226, one was unarmed, and the other had a Glock 26. I foind that odd that she used a 26 as her primary but a Glock is a Glock no matter the size!

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    Hell, I'd rock it. Lighter is better. And really, it's not like most DHS people are ever going to see anything even remotely resembling "action"

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  3. DScottHewitt

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    So, the fourth agent was gonna use harsh language or throw rocks?!?!?
     
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    Probably was not an agent. An admin/inspector type that is not LEO.
     
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    Then they should be at their desk, making sure it doesn't float away. NO ONE in law enforcement should EVER be on an op to arrest someone, and be unarmed.....


    Not dissing/attacking you. Just pointing out one of those things was not like the others, and should have stayed at the office......
     
  6. BLau

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    She was carrying a bag like she was a tech of some sort. The other female with the Glock had a pinky extension and some electrical tape on the grip.
     
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    "one was carrying no visible weapon"

    Accuracy and precision are important. You don't know what she had in her bag (or stuffed down her pants for that matter).
     
  8. BLau

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    True.
     
  9. Rabbi

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    It is not uncommon.

    The mix of LEO and officials who are not LEO happens all the time. Be it for an escort or just the need of a skill set, various lawyers and accountants in particular.
     
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    I guess I feel that the arresting should be left to the armed LEOs. After all, people occasionally don't want to be arrested, and make an issue of it......



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  11. Rabbi

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    BTW. they were at Starbucks chilling...how do you know what they were "going to do?" Even if they answered that question it doesnt mean from Latte to "Door kicking."

    How do you know the unarmed person was an agent?

    For an anecdotal account, I have been eating with fellow LEOs in soft uniform and my Wife has been with us, wearing business attire. She would look like she belonged but was not armed.(nor is she in any way an LEO) Had someone asked "what are yall going to do?" someone might have said something like "Going to take down the bad guys" or whatever.

    They would have probably left and could have made a post like this.

    "So, I was at Dennys when I saw 4 Officers. Probably detectives or high ups, they were wearing tactical stuff and underarmor Polos, one was a lady was in business clothing. They were on their way to some big raid.... They had glocks but the woman didnt have a gun, what gives, that doesnt seem right?"

    When in fact it was 3 cops on a training day eating at Dennys while my wife stopped by to join us for a bite.
     
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  12. Rabbi

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    Of coruse the "arresting" is done by LEOs. What if you are serving a warrant looking for something very special that requires an expert who is not an LEO? LEOs do all the cop stuff. The expert does his thing.

    Not every Police interaction involves only the Police.
     
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    Well, I would hope that the expert would not be anywhere inside the area the warrant is being on, until the LEOs with the guns have secured said area, and made sure bad guys are out of the way.

    Just sayin'
     
  14. Rabbi

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    I honestly dont know what we are going back and forth about. The cops do the cop stuff. Sometimes other people are involved for other tasks. That seems like a real simple concept.
     
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    I know. How did we get into this loop?

    I think we are on the same page.


    You ARE saying that the techie people would be doing their thing afterwards?


    My bad.
     
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    They were on TV an hour later busting the counterfeit ring. I recognized the guy's Nissan he was driving on TV. The unarmed female was wearing identical uniform as the armed female, a dark blue/black outfit. They both had there ID tags clipped on them. The two men were wearing green outfits with similar tags.

    I could be wrong about what they were doing, but it could be coincidence. I'm just reporting what I saw at the store and then on the news not too long afterwards. Please don't bust my balls...
     
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    Tea?

    c'mon - TEA?

    I learnt on Tea-Vee that real LEO ONLY drink coffee.

    Sounds like wackers.
     
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    The fat guy with a lab coat and glasses that does need to get to the computer as soon as humanly possible after HRT/SWAT goes in. This happens pretty regularly.
     
  19. Rabbi

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    So they went from chilling at Starbucks to being on TV within the hour for a huge bust (that was without a doubt the culmination of a long investigation)

    Are you sure they were not reporting something that had already happened? "Last night Police...." (or some previous timeframe) as opposed to "right now Police are....

    Also, did you see those exact people, or what you thought was their Nissan? You are not clear on that.

    You have not answered the question either about what makes you sure all 4 were LEOs?

    If it was a bust of that nature. I also state again, chances are high that the unarmed person could have been non LEO.

    And countereit what? Money? SS does that, not homeland security.
     
  20. Rabbi

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    I am not bustin' your balls, you made a statement that included assertions.

    Those assertions may not be correct. What you observed may not be correct.

    I dont know what you saw. I dont know what happened but I can point out problems with what you think you saw and what you think happened. Maybe you can put that all together and come away with new knowledge. I personally live to learn new things. Sometimes that takes tearing down what we perceive.
     
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