Dems supposedly reach deal on Cadillac health plan tax

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by Mr981, Jan 14, 2010.

  1. Mr981

    Mr981

    Messages:
    2,631
    Likes Received:
    760
    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2000
    Location:
    N. Central OH
  2. Fungunner

    Fungunner

    Messages:
    2,106
    Likes Received:
    2
    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2003
    Location:
    Sleepin' by the numbers
    Nice payoff for the Democrats biggest block of contributors. As for myself, I'm thinking of changing my religious preference to Amish.
     

  3. Glock20 10mm

    Glock20 10mm Use Linux!

    Messages:
    15,639
    Likes Received:
    1,557
    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2005
    Location:
    Land of Idiots and Libtards
    This is pretty telling...

    Job Approval | | Approve | | Disapprove | | Spread
    Obama | | 47.7% | | 45.3% | | +2.4%
    Congress | | 27.3% | | 66.8% | | -39.5%
    Direction of
    Country | | Right Direction | | Wrong Track | | Spread
    RCP Average | | 36.1% | | 56.3% | | -20.2%

    Sorry if the formatting is off...
     
    Last edited: Jan 14, 2010
  4. kestrou

    kestrou Pin Member #4

    Messages:
    1,593
    Likes Received:
    1
    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2000
    Location:
    In The Pocket
    This out to *really* play well with general public...

    Gee, another "giveway" to a special group (such as Nebraska or Louisiana) - and this is the group with the pensions and wage demands that are sinking the ship already.

    From the anti-Democrat angle, this is just SWEET - absolutely something else to hang around their neck and weight them to the bottom with! :tongueout:

    kestrou
     
  5. wjv

    wjv Zip It Stan Lee.. . .

    Messages:
    15,267
    Likes Received:
    3,764
    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2002
    Location:
    Pacific NW
    Won't help their poll numbers. . .
     
  6. Dennis in MA

    Dennis in MA Get off my lawn

    Messages:
    42,700
    Likes Received:
    2,844
    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2001
    Location:
    Taunton, MA
    When is the final vote??? I'm wondering if it's a big deal if Scott Brown wins in MA on Tuesday. Will one more Republican be able to stall this at all??
     
  7. Gary1911A1

    Gary1911A1

    Messages:
    3,396
    Likes Received:
    182
    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2005
    Location:
    Ohio for now
    I hope he wins. A poll shown on Fox shows Brown with a lead. I hope he wins so the Obama's social welfare dream can be stopped.
     
  8. silentpoet

    silentpoet

    Messages:
    30,883
    Likes Received:
    21,477
    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2007
    Location:
    This Old Caddy
    The general thinking is that the democrats will try to delay certification of the election if he does win.
     
  9. TurboRocket

    TurboRocket

    Messages:
    2,344
    Likes Received:
    9
    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2001
    Location:
    South of Utopia
    Obama is doing a full-court press to resolve the differences between the House and Senate's version of the bill. He needs to have the interim MA senator vote, or have Coakley win. Stall tactics will be in full play if Brown wins.

    It's a big deal. Filibuster.
     
  10. GlockontheRocks

    GlockontheRocks

    Messages:
    529
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    May 28, 2009
    Yeah, as long as ACORN does not count the final vote. :faint:
     
  11. the iceman

    the iceman Proud Veteran CLM

    Messages:
    7,741
    Likes Received:
    10
    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2007
    Location:
    Northern Illinois
    Can this be reversed once a large portion of the incumbents from both sides are thrown out by the people?
     
  12. DesertEagle.45

    DesertEagle.45 USMC 8531 Lifetime Member

    Messages:
    2,315
    Likes Received:
    2,368
    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2007
    Location:
    Heart of Dixie
    Yes it can, but the chances of it actually happening. Who knows.
     
  13. ricklee4570

    ricklee4570

    Messages:
    1,846
    Likes Received:
    2
    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2009
    Would be tough to reverse it, unless the Republicans win a BUNCH of seats in November. Enough to completely reverse the balance even more so than it is now in the Dems favor.
     
  14. Carrys

    Carrys Inquisitive

    Messages:
    13,123
    Likes Received:
    7
    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2006
    Location:
    Green Country
    They're not talking much about that at the moment.

    Don't know if it's just that they don't want to be seen as conceding defeat or if they actually have a plan. I do know that the Dems have taken every means available to them to not have it repealed. They've even put in the bill that no Congress after them can change it, something thats quite unconstitutional. But shucks, so is most of the entire bill.

    They just hope to have it tied up in the courts so long, that all the boards and control steps will be in place, and they just have to find something for them to do, right?

    I suspect many Repubs will run on repealing it, but once in office......they'll balk. If that happens, watch out. All bets about an uprising will be off.

    A year ago I would not have thought it possible. But now..................
     
  15. TurboRocket

    TurboRocket

    Messages:
    2,344
    Likes Received:
    9
    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2001
    Location:
    South of Utopia
    Repealing it would be a major up-hill climb. It would have to be veto-proof.
     
  16. HexHead

    HexHead

    Messages:
    4,815
    Likes Received:
    3
    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2009
    Yes, The Dems need all 60 votes to make this filibuster proof and pass it. If Brown gets elected and seated in time, the healthcare bill is toast.
     
  17. airmotive

    airmotive Tin Kicker

    Messages:
    9,550
    Likes Received:
    3,702
    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2007
    Location:
    Debris Field
    ....ummmm....where's the "Unions do nothing but great things for this country" crowd?
    They're here somewhere...I just wanted to hear how this one gets spun.
     
  18. Carrys

    Carrys Inquisitive

    Messages:
    13,123
    Likes Received:
    7
    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2006
    Location:
    Green Country


    You won't sir.

    They're very selective in their comments. Just when they believe they can actually make a point, they'll come running. When something like this happens, they're quite the silent bunch.

    Sort of like their "beliefs", when something happens they think they can advantage of **poof**, they're there. But when the truth shows them for what they are, nothing.

    They're comfortable with how they see things, they've based their entire lives on it. They will not let something like facts or the truth deter them now.

    They can't, they're afraid.
     
  19. sbhaven

    sbhaven

    Messages:
    4,783
    Likes Received:
    11
    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Location:
    Constitution State
    Which is why the Dems are rushing to ram this thing through. Its also why they are gearing up to challenge Brown if he wins and to delay seating him if he does win. They are going to do everything they can to lie, cheat, and steal the election in MA just so they can pass this disaster of a health care bill.
     
  20. Just1More

    Just1More

    Messages:
    5,143
    Likes Received:
    3
    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2009
    There's always Olympia Snowe or Susan Collins. I'm sure they could be bought.